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anybody wanna comment on doses?
Ya this is something i need to learn a whole lot more about.. i have a lot of tattoo's i don't want to damage due to the sun's harmful rays or the fake bulb uv rays.. so if this can keep my art in primo condition, tan me up hella good, increase my already out of control libido, AND prevent melanoma's then heck, i dunno why i have waited this long to start looking into it..
Also, side note, all of the JERSEY SHORE guido's and guidette's use the stuff.. and another side note.. J-WOWW can sit on my face any time she wants.. she likes the "JUICEHED GORILLAZ" !!! LOL...
So yah, let's fill this thread with useful knowledge !!
A typical regimen with melanotan II starts off with dosing at around 0.25 mg every day (ED) and once you've established that your system tolerates that amount (typically 3 to 5 days) you bump the dosage up to 0.5 mg ED and repeat the process never to go over 1 mg / day. Once you've reached the desired level of darkness then you draw back to 1 mg per week to maintain. You'll want to be careful about how dark you become it is not too infrequent that folks report going too dark. Usually the full pigmentation effect of dosing is not expressed until 10 days after the last dose.
These amounts are by no means set in stone. There are folks who've reported that with a bit of time and patience they achieved the color they wanted just staying at 0.25 mg per day.
Generally as your regimen progresses you will start to notice your skin darkening spontaneously (generally 2 to 3 weeks depending upon your skin type). It is at this point that if you get a very small amount of UV exposure (ie: go out in the sun for a bit) you'll enhance the pigmenting effects of the drug.
If you find that at a 0.25 mg starting dose you don't feel too well then dial it back to say 0.1 mg per day. Each individual's physiology is variable and some folks are particularly sensitive to melanocortin peptides like the melanotan peptides. Also sometimes you may have an off batch of peptide and using it will make you feel sick regardless of how small of a dose you take. Typical effects with melanotan II usage are 1. flushing (especially in the face) in an hour or two combined with a 2. slight nauseous feeling (feelings of nausea typically drop off after the first 3 or 4 days of dosing) and 3. erectile activity (for men) with increased libido for both men and women. Occasionally gastro-intestinal effects (upset stomach) are reported and there are anecdotal reports of slight headaches intially (it is not clear if these reports are stemming from the peptide itself or some other factor, this given the unregulated and unlicensed nature of the sources for these peptides).
awesome great information and thank you for taking the time to answer so throrough. Cant wait to give it a go.
Awesome thanks again. So if i were to just dose out 10mg's worth into the syringes and freeze they would be stable until i used them all? very cool stuff cant wait to give it a try.Another thing, if you decide to get some UV exposure it's very advisable to keep areas of your skin that ordinarily get exposure covered up with a towel or zinc oxide (for the nose/lips) and let less exposed areas develop pigmentation first. Areas of skin that are typically sun-exposed in your day to day life will respond more readily to the effects of the melanotan peptides. And use bacteriostatic water to prepare the subcutaneous injections. Bacteriostatic water will tend to sting less. A good game plan is to prepare a series of syringes with the doses you'll be taking for 10-20 days and then freeze them. Then when it is time to administer an injection you just remove a single frozen syringe, let thaw, and use. Reconstituted melanotan peptides will support a single freezing fine (keep any vials with powder frozen as well).
You might want to review this previous Muscle Ch3mistry thread:
http://board1.mantisforums.com/upload/showthread.php?t=46460
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melanotan - afamelanotide
Awesome thanks again. So if i were to just dose out 10mg's worth into the syringes and freeze they would be stable until i used them all? very cool stuff cant wait to give it a try.
Yes, so long as your freezer doesn't have a defrost cycle. Do know though that if you're a genuine Fitzpatrick skin type II then 10 mg may not be enough to gain the level of pigmentation you'll be after. You might want to consider acquiring 20 to 30 mg.
Yeah i meant just doing 10mg's at a time. Should i keep it all frozen the whole time? even before i reconstitute? I was probably going to start with 30mg's and see where i end up. I figured i would tan once or twice a week to help it come along is that too much?
It is highly doubtful that everyone on that show used the peptides. But J-WOWW did express here: http://www.longislandpress.com/2009/12/10/jenni-farley-brings-the-j-woww-factor-to-jersey-shore/
that there was usage amongst show participants.
awesome great information and thank you for taking the time to answer so throrough. Cant wait to give it a go.
Awesome thanks again. So if i were to just dose out 10mg's worth into the syringes and freeze they would be stable until i used them all? very cool stuff cant wait to give it a try.
Yes, keep any vials of powder frozen as well (if you want to be a bit anal you can throw the vials into a plastic bag and use one of those vacuum bag machines to suck out all of the air - doing this to the powdered form will help it to keep for a long long time).
If you're talking about going to a tanning salon I would advise you to really limit your exposure. Tanning beds can do horrendous damage to your skin. You should find that once the pigmentation effects of the peptide kicks in you will need minimal exposure. I would recommend going 3-4 minutes at a time particularly initially and if you can instead get some sunshine then opt for that over a sunbed.
Ok its been pretty cloudy lately and it will be wierd laying out or trying to get sun if its in the 30's lol. Yeah i wasnt talking about tanning much just once or twice to get it going then once a week after that or so. So you will get darker without even getting UV? I work indoors in the winter so my time outside is basically walking into the gym, work etc. So i figured i would have to tan a little at least.
You'll get some pigmentation without exposure but it may be a bit grayish. Limited UV light exposure does something to the whole melanotan peptide pigmentation process that helps enhance the results making for a more natural appearance.
It was revealed that Snickers(Snookie)-Nicole , Mike Sorrentino, Pauly D, and Ronne all were Melanotan users..
There haven't been any scientific studies examining how long these peptides can be kept frozen but one would surmise that if you have a good, solid and reliable freezer they could conceivably be kept for months and maybe as long as a year. Just know though that keeping them for an extended length of time is not advisable precisely because it is not known how they break down over time in a frozen state.Also good to know I can freeze and use when needed.. how long does it last refrigged ?? Like.. could I recon 3 wks worth.. and freeze 2, then keep 1 wk in the frig ??
You could break it up across 4 injections. There is some anecdotal reports that doing this enhances how well it works and reduces some of the disagreeable side effects (nausea, etc.)And.. is melanotan a permanent regimen?? Such as.. as soon as you reach ur desired color and you drop back to 1mg per wk.. is it .. 1mg once per week or is it split into say .25mgs 4 days per week?? or how does that all technically work out??
OH.. And does dosing VARY between male and female?? Or does that not matter?? still start at .25mgs ED for a week.. then .5mg ED for a week then .75mgs ED for a week then 1mg ED for a week and hold there until desired color is achieved ?? Male or Female... all the same???
It was in the issue of People magazine, whole two page article-- Jersey Shore: Drug Use Scandal? Or Everyday Norm --- that was the name of the article... (they didn't specifically say, MELANOTAN, they said injectable steroid known to bring enhanced tan and libido without having to actually do much tanning at all (i.e.- they don't know what they are talking about- they are writers, and think anything injectable is a steroid) but they did interview the jersey shore people.. Snookie, J-Woww, Sorentino and Pauly D for this article.