New to this, just got t3 and clenbuterol and would like some insight

[PandyFackler]

Hello! I am about to start using t3 and clenbuterol to cut weight and muscle. I'm 5'5", 44 years old, 130 lbs, and have some herniated discs and nerve damage in my neck, arms, and back that have set up what is becoming chronic muscle pain and cramping. Years ago I had a similar injury; when physical therapy didn't work much, I used pharmaceutical amphetamines to drop weight, reduce or lose the muscle that was cramping, and then rebuild.

I'm currently in PT, being told not to exercise more strenuously than "brisk walking," and becoming thick, puffy, & weak. I'd like to get down to 100 or 105 and then build back up to 125, and be able to be active again. Anyone here know how to use/dose clenbuterol 200 mcgx(30 ml) and t3 liothyronine 100 mcg (x30 ml)? Also any hints on what kinds of supplements to use while doing this? Thanks in advance!

 

[csuperman]

youll probably want to take some taurine it will help with cramps, well actually if you say you get cramps you may want to avoid clenbuterol as it can causing cramping issues. I think most t3 pharmaceuticals come in 25mcg, 50 or 75mcg tabs so you may want to read up on what a normal amount to use.

 

[PandyFackler]

Thanks for the info! Yeah, both the t3 and clenbuterol are in liquid and I don't want to blow out my thyroid.

 

[Presser]

Then be sure to ramp it up and back down properly or you will fuck up ur thyroid for good, rare but very possible. I also don't know that I've ever given advice on how best to lose muscle and not to sure I wanna start nor get into advising anyone with serious medical issues. Not to be a dick so sorry if I come off that way but I just don't see this being a good idea or alternative to getting your discs fixed once and for all with surgery. I been there so I know the pain but these two compounds might exasserbate the problems

 

[PandyFackler]

Presser, you're not coming across like a dick at all! Thanks for your input -- that's why I'm here. Right now my insurance is refusing to surgically treat the discs - guess I have to be full-on unable to get up and go to work for them to do that. I get PT and occasional short rounds of oral prednisone to address the impingement of nerves, nerve damage, and muscle wasting that's happening in one of my arms and my back. My experience with losing & rebuilding muscle was in my mid-30's and as a medium-sized woman with small bones, I guess it wasn't such a big deal, there was not that much to lose in the first place (lol). I'm just losing my mind with "brisk walks" and not being strong or out-of-pain enough to even scrub my floors, much less climb or hike or lift or swim and do NOT want to become a fatty fat fat casualty of this injury as I turn the corner to 50.

 

[Presser]

Presser, you're not coming across like a dick at all! Thanks for your input -- that's why I'm here. Right now my insurance is refusing to surgically treat the discs - guess I have to be full-on unable to get up and go to work for them to do that. I get PT and occasional short rounds of oral prednisone to address the impingement of nerves, nerve damage, and muscle wasting that's happening in one of my arms and my back. My experience with losing & rebuilding muscle was in my mid-30's and as a medium-sized woman with small bones, I guess it wasn't such a big deal, there was not that much to lose in the first place (lol). I'm just losing my mind with "brisk walks" and not being strong or out-of-pain enough to even scrub my floors, much less climb or hike or lift or swim and do NOT want to become a fatty fat fat casualty of this injury as I turn the corner to 50.

yeah thats a tough one with the insurance, i need a fusion between c4-c7 and was out of the gym totally for a year and half, totally!!! WHich killed me, i thought my back was broken, the pain was unimaginable!! The numbing all the way down to my fingertips, so numb that the numbing tingle actually hurt to,lol, after realizing i couldnt work myself back into shape and out of pain, i told myself i would not lift a single thing for as long as it took and see how it went, well it took a year and a half and 4 spine epidurals , and while i still need the fusion surgery, i can honestly say the rest has helped a lot, i can lift again, but not like before, and my weight went from 315lbs to 270lbs while i was out of the gym, talk about depressing lol, but im almost back to my old self but im running on epidurals,lol, and they arent going to give me many more.

Anyhow, sorry for the long rant, but i wanted to stress that ive been there, and we just had a member "lee Gaspari" just had his fusion surgery done, so theres a wealth of info here for ya to feed on, and im not the be all end all when it comes to giving you advice, we have a lot of bright people here who might say im way off with t3 and clen for you and who might have personal experience , so ill bump this thread up for ya and hopefully some of the bright guys chime in, just be careful of the guys who "think" their bright lmao!!

and WELCOME TO MUSCLECHEMISTRY!!!

 

[PandyFackler]

I am so sorry! The pain is truly indescribable if you have not experienced it - it's worse than kidney stones and continuous. You're looking good and it's great to hear that you've been able to build back up. Pretty amazing, too, considering how much you must want it to work through the pain. I'd be happy to be able to work off the gut that's starting to pooch out from what were never great abs to begin with and arrest the development of a sweet pair of bingo wings.

 

[GreatGunz]

Start smoking crack ! WORKS every time.........
I too have a neck injury with nerve impingement and get cramping.
That said there is no way in hell I would purposefully burn muscle.

You still have same amount of nerve ending wether you look like the hulk or a crack head.
I would try other avenues

inversion table
home neck traction
massage ( a lot of insurance covers this)

Not to mention ur gonna feel like shit and just perpetuate the cycle of as you said building back up to just to tear it all down again isn't healthy in it self, Especially with the drugs!

Now here is my plug for Presser , forget the clen and t3 and try IGF LR3.
it will help with fat burning
repair muscle damage
repair tendons
repair ligaments

And make u feel better in general!

 

[PandyFackler]

Ooh, NeatoCoolThanks!, will go down the rabbithole of researching IGF LR3!

 

[Presser]

I am so sorry! The pain is truly indescribable if you have not experienced it - it's worse than kidney stones and continuous. You're looking good and it's great to hear that you've been able to build back up. Pretty amazing, too, considering how much you must want it to work through the pain. I'd be happy to be able to work off the gut that's starting to pooch out from what were never great abs to begin with and arrest the development of a sweet pair of bingo wings.

your right, no one knows until they "KNOW" unfortunately! Well i would imgaine this is the route your goingt o go considering youve already purchased your two items, I would just suggest ramping the t3 and reading up on it if you havent already and im sure we have some poeple here who know more about using these two compounds more then i do, best of luck to you, and dont hesitate to ask any questions about anything

 

[Presser]

Start smoking crack ! WORKS every time.........
I too have a neck injury with nerve impingement and get cramping.
That said there is no way in hell I would purposefully burn muscle.

You still have same amount of nerve ending wether you look like the hulk or a crack head.
I would try other avenues

inversion table
home neck traction
massage ( a lot of insurance covers this)

Not to mention ur gonna feel like shit and just perpetuate the cycle of as you said building back up to just to tear it all down again isn't healthy in it self, Especially with the drugs!

Now here is my plug for Presser , forget the clen and t3 and try IGF LR3.
it will help with fat burning
repair muscle damage
repair tendons
repair ligaments

And make u feel better in general!

It was my first thought when she said she had nerve damage and such, but would have sounded soooo cheesey coming from me, for obvious reasons, and i figured someone would mention its probably the best bet in this situation.

 

[HackTwat]

As for the Clen and T3, just be careful and increase gradually and decrease gradually when you cycle off. I would suggest using Benedryl for a week or so after the Clen use. I itched like a mutha post clen use. Benedryl clears those receptors off really well.

I too have had the Neck Surgery at C5-C6. Fused with a plate and 6 screws. Took me 2 years to get back in the gym. Now, 4 years post surgery I'm having trouble again. Compressing below my fusion, but I have refused to have another surgery. Gonna just continue keeping on. Gotta take my pain meds and I too get the epidurals every few weeks. Sucks in a major way!!! But I wont let it keep me down 2 years again!!!
I believe the stronger you can build the muscle around your neck, the better the outcome. AND, You guys have just confirmed what I was already thinking regarding the IGF-1. Hoping to get started on that in about a month.....
So, look for my order soon there....Presser!!! :sport:

 

[Presser]

As for the Clen and T3, just be careful and increase gradually and decrease gradually when you cycle off. I would suggest using Benedryl for a week or so after the Clen use. I itched like a mutha post clen use. Benedryl clears those receptors off really well.

I too have had the Neck Surgery at C5-C6. Fused with a plate and 6 screws. Took me 2 years to get back in the gym. Now, 4 years post surgery I'm having trouble again. Compressing below my fusion, but I have refused to have another surgery. Gonna just continue keeping on. Gotta take my pain meds and I too get the epidurals every few weeks. Sucks in a major way!!! But I wont let it keep me down 2 years again!!!
I believe the stronger you can build the muscle around your neck, the better the outcome. AND, You guys have just confirmed what I was already thinking regarding the IGF-1. Hoping to get started on that in about a month.....
So, look for my order soon there....Presser!!! :sport:

Damn theirs more of us that need or have had this surgery then i knew! Also is that common with having compression on the discs under the fusion, i would think it is, but not sure my doctor mentioned that. Sounds as if you had yours where i need mine , and it blew my mind when they told me to get on my back before they put me under for my first injection,lol, i was like well how are you guys going to inject me if im laying on my back,lol, and i wasnt ready for the answer of, OH we go through the front side of your neck with this long ass needle lol, ahhh good times ay lol

 

[GreatGunz]

Presser
maybe you should run a trial test on some us with these issues and have us log it hmmmmmm!

with the igf!

 

[GreatGunz]

Another addition to the IGFLR3 you could also add BPC 157, Total body repair.

 

[Presser]

Presser
maybe you should run a trial test on some us with these issues and have us log it hmmmmmm!

with the igf!

lol, Nah

 

[GreatGunz]

Hahaha.......
Give the props bro !

 

[charliebigspuds]

:nope:well all of these posts are scary as hell for me..and i just wish all of u the best...back/spine is not a place i would like to have pain and a fusion i can not even bare to think about..i must suck like hell for your insurance not to pay up...i really thank god for the NHS in the UK..

i do hope some one can help u on here i realy do..but plz dont smoke crack he was only joking..:uhoh:

 

[Presser]

:nope:well all of these posts are scary as hell for me..and i just wish all of u the best...back/spine is not a place i would like to have pain and a fusion i can not even bare to think about..i must suck like hell for your insurance not to pay up...i really thank god for the NHS in the UK..

i do hope some one can help u on here i realy do..but plz dont smoke crack he was only joking..:uhoh:

Was he?? Lol your 2 avatars were perfect to bro lol funny stuff

 

[PandyFackler]

I don't like having anything on fire near my face. :chinese: My insurance would probably be up for it if I were just a little bit worse off, and I dread getting "worse" enough for that to happen if "not bad enough" is this painful.