No Limit - Just go to the gym and lift some heavy ass weight !!!

Chris250

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No Limit
by Ox

Every time we step foot in the gym we maintain an inner dialogue. We ask ourselves what the routine should look like, what exercises we should do and in what order. But more specifically, and arguably more importantly, we're forced to determine when to stop… When do we stop adding weight and when do we stop the reps. At first glance, I'd look at it and say it's pretty simple because you only stop when you can't do anymore. You do as much weight as you can for as many reps as you can, and then you stop. However, we really plan this shit out. We go into a training session with a plan on doing so many exercises and sets per exercises, blah fucking blah. We all imagine going into the gym and breaking through barriers. We wanna make progress; that's all we're in it for. That's what keeps us going.

What if the next time you walked into the gym you just said “Fuck it”, and got rid of all the structure? No more counting reps, no more minimum or maximum numbers of sets. Maybe it's back day and all you want to do is deadlift. Is it wrong to do 10 sets of deads and walk out the door? Maybe it's just opposite and you feel like having a fucking field day and doing 7 different exercises. Maybe a superset here or a drop set there. Just do whatever the fuck you want. No rules. You go when you wanna go and you stop when you wanna stop. That is assuming you trust yourself to have the balls and the drive to never let it be anything less than sufficient.

You know what I think? I think you're fucking scared. I think you need someone to tell you what you should do, what you should think and how you should feel. I think you take comfort in someone telling you to do x, y and z. The bottom line is you don't have the balls to trust yourself. If you want to stand half a chance in this game you better grow a set and learn to have the strength to stand by your convictions. How many times have you done something because someone else does it? Why? Why are you so quick to assume that someone else knows better than you? Damn, have some faith in yourself.

Have you ever felt like you cheated yourself because you were too rigid? You can't tell me that you've never stopped at four sets on one exercise even though deep down you felt like you were just getting into it. Instead of doing more, you moved on. In the same regard, I've seen guys stop at a certain number of reps. Why the fuck would you do that? You could get 14 but you stopped at 12 because you read that the optimal rep range for muscle building is 8-12. C'mon man, get serious.

Instead of going into a training session with all of your exercises, sets and reps predetermined, why don't you do something different? How can you expect to break new ground and smash through barriers when you yourself are continuously putting up new barriers? Stop restricting yourself to certain types and volumes of exercises. Do as many sets of an exercise as you feel are appropriate. Also, if you are physically able to do another rep, you better fucking do it.

In the 1973 movie “Magnum Force,” Clint Eastwood stars as Dirty Harry Callahan, a hard-ass San Francisco police inspector. Harry encounters a lot of pressure from his superiors in response to his stop at nothing tactics, which are viewed as less than conventional, but never fail to get the job done. Harry and his superior, Lieutenant Briggs share the following dialogue:

Harry Callahan: Well, I just work for the city, Briggs.
Lieutenant Briggs: So do I, longer than you, and I never had to take my gun out of its holster once. I'm proud of that.
Harry Callahan: Well, you're a good man, Lieutenant. A good man always knows his limitations...

If you watch the scene, you will see that Harry's comment was a dig. What he was really saying was that the lieutenant never had the balls to do what was necessary to get the job done. It was evident by Harry's ruthless style and win at all costs mentality that he disregarded any thought of limitations.

My question to you is this: How can you ever expect to achieve shit when you've been saying from the start what you're not going to do? Know your limitations? To even consider it is to have two strikes against you. You can't expect to go further than everyone else when you set limits for yourself.
 
shit! Preach it! Damn I usually do about 7 different exercises for back, is that bad?
 
I hope not because I do the same thing on back day and it is starting to show !!!!:bench:

lol cool, Im not getting any bigger till march but usually it works pretty well for me, I was thinking maybe a different way would get better results
 
thats what i like about dc training, after 8 weeks you get 2 weeks to do your own training. i dont know what im gonna do those days until im doing it
 
I have always trained til failure and never trained with a determined number of reps per set. I think if u go to failure on each set your pushing urself the best however I do count sets.
 
i totally agree. its nice to workout without counting, just go for it. my last thread kinda touched on the same stuff. tired of the strict diets, workouts, schedules, meds. im gonna just do whatever i feel like for a while
 
I have always trained til failure and never trained with a determined number of reps per set. I think if u go to failure on each set your pushing urself the best however I do count sets.


nicely put. I've noticed "failure" to 6 reps vs 12 or 15 reps can feel different from each other. i.e. with lower reps you get the shakes from hitting the CNS so hard and with higher reps you get the terrible burn and cramp. But either way, if you got to failure you're gonna get results.
 
I have one problem with "doing whatever you feel like". Now, if you do this once in a while to mix things up I say OK great. But if everytime you go in the gym you do something different, how do guage your progress? How will you ever know what exercise's are working for you? It may be two, three maybe even four weeks before you get back to exercise "x" that you did the first time. Maybe you get stronger in it from doing your variety but maybe you don't. You may just end up spinning your wheels weight wise but feel like you are getting a good workout because of the "burn" and the "pump".
The "burn" and the "pump" lie to you though. I share the opinion of guys like Dante Trudel who preach only through progressively lifting heavier weights will you push through plateaus.

SO I suggest a balance between structure and doing whatever you want. I think you should have somewhat of a plan before you go into the gym. At least know what core exercises you want to do, and do them consistently for at least six weeks. If you are still adding plates and or reps keep going with it unless you are just bored, then switch it out.
For example: on back day you might KNOW that you are going to do chins, BB rows, and deadlifts. I would do those, in the same order every time trying to progress in weight or reps every workout. Now as far as sets, I don't think you want to do as many as you want on say BB row when you know you are going to deadlift next. But have a range, like maybe 4-6. If you feel like you blasted a movement at four sets then stop, if not do a couple more but have a limit. If you are training at even close to failure it will be enough.

Now when your done with your core exercises maybe you still feel you got something left in the tank. Maybe then you add something you don't normally do like pullovers, or close grip pulldowns, but your core movements stay the same.
As far as reps go, that certainly shouldn't be pre-determined ever. You may have an idea where you want to fail at, but always push yourself even if you have to go past your "rep range".

I know I'm not the biggest, leanest or strongest guy on here, or anywhere, but I've made significant gains training like this. When I was young and my joints were in much better health, the most I ever weighed was 185 and my strenght was lame. I did just like this article said. I always winged it, did whatever I wanted, and I thought I was really pushing myself but I see now in hindsight I was just fooling myself. I would do enough sets and reps to get a good burn, and/or pump and think that I did something. Even though the most I ever incline benched was 185.

I don't know, just food for thought, most of you have forgotten more about training than I know, but this makes sense to me in my head at least so I thought I would share.
 
nicely put. I've noticed "failure" to 6 reps vs 12 or 15 reps can feel different from each other. i.e. with lower reps you get the shakes from hitting the CNS so hard and with higher reps you get the terrible burn and cramp. But either way, if you got to failure you're gonna get results.

exactly brutha
 
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