Hey
PushToday! First I wanted to welcome you to MC!
You just landed in a
GOLDMINE!
There is no need to go anywhere else for help now that you have found this board!
You will get all of the help you need from some guys that really know their stuff!
There are a lot of really good people here that want to help you (including myself).
Anyway, As far as the cycle goes, It sounds like you are getting your ducks in a row.
So far, I'm with
IronJulius.
For your first cycle, I think a simple Test/Dbol or Tbol would be fantastic!
No need to add the winny.
When you add up the time of being on the Dbol and Winny, it's a lot.
There is no reason to be so rough on your liver, especially on your first cycle.
Honestly, it's just not needed.
I would increase the Test dose to 500mg/WEEK before I would add Winstrol.
It's VERY important to start out with as few compounds as possible in order to discover how your body reacts to them.
We all react a little differently to every substance, so it just makes it harder for you to know what is doing what when you keep throwing stuff in. 2 compounds for your first cycle is PLENTY.
As far as Liver support, I'm just not sure about the Liv52.
I just don't think there is a lot of science behind most of it's components, but it can't hurt.
I definitely HIGHLY recommend getting some
TUDCA.
Milk Thistle is also a great addition to TUDCA for your liver support.
Any research you do will show you that TUDCA, Milk Thistle, and UDCA are the best supps you can take to protect and even regenerate your liver!
If you don't do that, at least drink the cranberry juice, but personally, I don't think that's enough for Dbol.
I'm still a little confused on your planned dosing.
Do you mean a total of 200-250mg/WEEK, or 400-500mg/WEEK? Will you please clear this up for me?
Either way, I would split that into 2 doses just to keep your levels steady.
If you're only running 200-250mg/WEEK, some will say that's not a high enough dose to worry about it, but I would.
Even if you just ran TEST, you would make some really nice gains, because your first cycle is typically gonna be your best.
If you are insistent on adding an oral, Tbol will cause you to hold less water, but Dbol will most likely give you better gains as a "Kickstart".
As far as the Dbol goes, I'm not sure what mg your tabs are.
Either way, I think you should start out at 30mg/ED just to see how you react to it, and go to 40mg/ED your second week if all is well.
If that works out, them you could even bump up to 50mg/WEEK on week 4. That would be BEAST!
I think 4 weeks would give you plenty of time to get what you need out of the Dbol, and by then your Test will be kicked in really well.
Try your best to drink at least 1 gallon of water/ED with the Dbol, but really the entire cycle.
The water retention from the Dbol isn't a bad thing. It's good for your joints.
Mostly all of it will go away during your PCT.
I prefer
Arimidex for my A.I.
You can get it from Advanced Supplements as well as any other A.I you prefer.
It is under the name:
A-DEX
Save the Clomid/Nolva for PCT.
Here is the link for everything you need. It is actually the store for this board if you didn't know.
https://www.musclechemistry.com/pro...id=52&osCsid=d8bb5a095fab7e91fea81d0d57860551
Presser is the owner, and he will take good care of you.
He is the main reason I decided to stick around on this board, and I have done a lot of business with him.
It's hard to find straight up guys like him these days.
His products are legit, and he ships extremely quick.
Anyway, I like to be safe with everything, and Dbol is notorious for causing significantly increased Estrogen that can lead to Gyno,
so I would recommend taking A-DEX @ .5mg/EOD throughout the entire cycle (especially if you're going to run 400-500mg/WEEK Test.
It won't affect your gains as much as some people will tell you, and it's better to be safe than sorry.
If you really want to add something else to your cycle, you can't go wrong with IGF1-LR3!
It is not an AAS. It is a peptide, and extremely safe to take for very long periods of time.
I plan on taking it from 6 months to a year this time.
It will work synergistically with your Test/Dbol. Meaning, it will compound your results!
It actually
Creates New Muscle Cells/Fibers, has fat burning properties that will keep you lean and vascular,
promotes gains will be lean, quality gains that you will not lose, and it will give you pumps in the gym like you've never had!
Basically, it is "The Fountain of Youth", and the best thing since Testosterone!
You can also obtain the IGF at this boards store. Trust me, it's the best you're gonna find anywhere!
If you are unfamiliar with it, there is a wealth of knowledge on this site under the "Peptides" forum,
but I will be more than happy to help you with it if you would like for me to.
Please help me clear up what you are thinking as far as your dosing.
I am happy to help you out.
I hope you run a "Cycle Log". It will benefit you and others in so many ways!
I assure you that you will be happy you did it.
I run a log for every cycle I run.
I always learn something new, and I get to help others out (which I love).
I am running a log of my current cycle if you're interested in taking a look.
Here is the link.
http://www.musclechemistry.com/uplo...prop-tren-ace-sd-dta-igf1-lr3.html#post713526
That's it for now.
It's good to have you here bro!
I love it here, and I feel "at home".
I hope you will as well!