PGF2A administration ...

[hangslo]

I am going to be receiving some PGF2A from LC soon, and I wanted a little feedback ...

First off, I understand that their product IS for injectible research ... if I am incorrect, please let me know ...

Also, has anybody here used LC's PGF2A before, and how were the results?

My third question is this ... since it is supposed to be injected IM and a slin needle is the most common, would using say a 25g 1" needle to get it further into the muscle be more advisable? I am not obese, but at 15% BF, I am concerned that a 5/8 '' pin would not be long enough to administer the PGF2A deeply enough into the muscles being injected (probably delts, bi's and tri's). Like I said, I dont feel like there is a lot of BF in those areas, but I want to make sure that it ALL gets all the way into the muscle ...

My plan is to start out twice a day at .25 ml, and up it to .50 ml twice a day if sides will allow ...

any input would be appreciated ...

thanks,
hangslo

 

[hitmeoff]

Well depends on where you jab. Try it in your leaner areas like bis, calves etc.

Also remember that you should move up in FREQUENCY before moving up in DOSE. Meaning you should aim to increase from 2 times a day to 4 times a day @ .25ml per dose before you increase to .5ml per dose. The reason is because PGF2a has a very short half life, therefore more frequent injections are more benificial than less frequent but larger doses. Also sides are strictly DOSE dependent. The more you use at one time the more severe the sides will be. So smaller, but more frequent injection are more easily tolerated than larger less frequent injections.

 

[hangslo]

Well depends on where you jab. Try it in your leaner areas like bis, calves etc.

Hey bro, thanks for the response ... my calves are pretty lean, but they are absolutely NOT on the list for injects ... due to genetics, my calves are 18.5" without ever working them out ... they are already ahead of the rest of my body ...

I will try to increase the frequency of the injects first, but due to my work schedule and the fact that I am driving around all day, I do not feel comfortable taking the stuff on the road with me ...

 

[hangslo]

bump ...

 

[erokyrwrld]

I had been using PGF for about 2 weeks. Used a 1/2" 29g slin pin and rotated the different heads of the bis tris and calves. Started at .25cc 4x ed, and went up to .5cc 4x ed. The shit hurts - let me stress that. I didn't experience much if any gastro problems, but the inject site (specially calves) would be viciously sore for about 4-5 hours post injection. I don't know if I got any solid size gain, but I feel I leaned up a little and my muscles were rock hard. I only stopped b/c I got an inflammation in my arm. Not sure if it was from the pgf - most likely due to some old tren I put in my delt. I will be using pgf again though.

 

[hangslo]

C'mon guys ... there's gotta be someone else with useful input ... 49 views and only 2 replies?

Oh, and thanks for the replies ...

 

[bigjosh]

I've used pgf2a a great deal, but never consistently enough to call it a pgf2a cycle. I've done it ED 1-3 times off and on for weeks on end. Most of my injections were subq directly in fat and not in muscle. I did notice it makes the muscle hard when injected IM but the pain was not worth it. I do believe it helped me lean up but due to sides I didn't do enough to call it a pgf2a cycle and also I was on shitloads of gear and 6iu's GH ED, so I had no control. the most I ever did was 1.5cc's at a time and mine was upjohns 5mg/ml, so 7.5mg at a time. The sides at that dose are not comfortable at all to me but due to my schedule at the time more frequent less volumous doses were not an option so I went with what I could. I still have some lying around and take a lil here and there when I'm a gluton for punishment but I am not into using it as a cycle. Also being that most of my inj were subq in fat in stomach I definitely did notice the smooth muscle contractions...had unreal contractions of intestines and bladder at high doses, but expected it and was used to it. I think that the philosophy on using it more frequent at a smaller doseage is best if you are doing what you'd call a "pgf2 cycle". Anyways hope this was of some interests...just my history with it b4 i go to bed...,,,bigjosh

 

[custombikes]

i had better results injecting in the fat around the gut, i did not see much results for injecting into the muscle, and i did stay on for about 4 weeks consistantly, playing with different doses and frequency, other than the side effects, wich is dosage dependant, i will do it again, but only as a fat reducer, my diet was only about 70% on and every morning i woke up it seemed as if i was loosing fat. i lost an inch around my waist in 3 weeks, while still maintaining my same body weight, and again my diet was not perfect, ive been absent from the board for a while because i had back surgery last year, i went from 220 with a 31" waist to 185 with a 35" waist in as little as 8 months (i have never went through so much shit in my life as i did with my back) now i am back up to 215 with a a 33" waist and will be doing pgf2a before the summer, but again only as a fat loss, atleast thats how it worked for me. good luck

 

[swolldier]

Would some one PM and let me know if LC is still up?

 

[hangslo]

Would some one PM and let me know if LC is still up?

they are not ...

 

[saiyajinali]

I have been using LC PGF2A for six weeks & I guess you can say I am in a "controlled environment". Meaning all of my other gear & diet have been very consistent.
Other gear.

Aratest 1000mg -1125mg wk
Deca 300mg wk
EQ 200mg wk
insulin 12IU on training days (4 days wk)
GH - 3.5 IU 5 days wk

Height 5'5"
Weight 220lbs

I have used multiple sites for IM inject with a 1/2 slin pin. On the days that I use it is administered 4 to 5 times a day. Here is the rotation.

Day 1- front delts & biceps

Day 2- Outer sweeps of quads (one on upper sweep, one on lower sweep)

Day 3- side delts & rear delts

Day 4- outer head of tricep & inner head of tricep.

I have read others posts from others about the dosages & have played with them & it is really surprising what has worked for me. At first I tried 15IU each dose for two weeks & every thing was fine. Then I tried going up to 25IU & suffered adverse reactions. I am pretty sensitive to any foreign substance so a little goes a long way. The gear amounts might seem high, but it has taken me 13 years to work up to the amounts I am using now. When I was using 25IU I stayed in the bathroom constantly. It was so bad for that week & a half until I actually got weaker in the gym. I honestly believe my stomach was so upset I could not digest my food. I got the sweats real bad & sometime my blood sugar would crash. And let me tell you I eat a pretty good bit. Then about 3 or four days after quitting the PGF2A & my strength came back & I gained about 3 lbs the following week. When I resumed PGF2A I started using (you wont believe this) 10IU a dose for two weeks. I am rocking now! My shoulders, bi's, tri's are fuller & vascular. Especially lean & vascular for off season. I did not make a dramatic girth change in my arms but they look bigger, leaner, & more vascular than they ever have. This stuff leans out wherever you inject it. Guys, trust me on this. I am 32 years old & although I am new to the national circuit I have been competing since I was 19 years old. I have tried alot of different "supplements" & I believe PGF2A is not a miracle drug. But I do believe it is very effective for someone that wants to refine & polish their physique.

My girlfriend is preparing for a national show & she has been using PGF2A (women can use this as long as they keep their dosages around 5 to 10IU a dose) for around three months & it has really hardened up her physique & put some caps on her delts like you would not believe. Not that much weight gain, but quality.
For all of you that are using these high dosages, keep in mind that this stuff can be dangerous in the fact that it can enlarge your heart. The heart is a muscle too. And believe me if you are like me & using other gear, we are probably at risk for enlarging our hearts with the other stuff.

Sometimes less is better.

 

[x_muscle]

hi bros

is there any other
im dying to try this stuff......any one can help me via pm!

Bro this is a warning an open post is not allowed on the subject you want answered even if you are asking for a pm.

 

[x_muscle]

bump!!!!!

 

[saturn1]

Bump it up^^^

 

[ryubrir]

is cy-col stil around?

can anyone shoot me their URL ?


peace...

 

[maxhd2]

@saiyajinali

i know that steroids can cause heart enlargement, but i thought that Pgf2a cause only local muscle growth where it was injeted?
can say more about that side effect?

 

[mango]

@saiyajinali

i know that steroids can cause heart enlargement, but i thought that Pgf2a cause only local muscle growth where it was injeted?
can say more about that side effect?

it has both local and systemic effects