guardianactual
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
Q. Age 36I am 5'11"I weight 265 lbs30% body fatI have been out of the gym for several yrs and would like to get in better shape by dropping some of this fat and gaining lean muscle. Together with a strict diet and exercise i know i will achieve what im looking for but i need a boost. Will tren and test prop help speed this up? i have also considered clenbuterol in small doses. Please advise anything u can help with.. Thanks
A. I would hold off on tren for a first cycle. I've mentioned in a number of other answers that it just isn't well suited for the new user. Test would help...but when I say help, steroids aren't going to directly burn fat. They are going to help preserve and build muscle, while on a cal restricted diet. If your diet isn't going to get you lean, you'll end up disapointed with your fat loss goals. As for the test you use, I would not use prop. Once again, I've talked a lot lately as to why prop isn't a good first time cycle. Stick with a long acting test that will be less painful when injected into virgin muscle, and only has to be pinned 2x wk, vs ED or EOD. You can add an AI, like adex, in order to keep estrogen under control and maintain a less bloated look. Remember though, that AAS will make you more sensitive to sodium. You don't need to eat low sodium on a cutting diet, but you do want to keep the sodium stable from day to day.
Clen would be a great addition to the cycle, starting at 40mcg ED and adding 20mcg every 2 wks, until you get to 120mcg, then staying at that dose for the rest of the cycle. There are other ways to run clen, which you may see, if you surf the forums, but IMO, this is the best way. It works well enough to get me to low single digit body fat.*
If you want to dry out a little more, and push things a little further, adding a DHT based drug like winstrol oral, toward the end will help to dry you out and look harder. It's ideal to add in, once you are already close to being lean. *
Here is how I would set it up :
1-12
test e 350mg to 500mg EW, split into 2 shots
adex .5mg 2x wk to EOD, as needed to control blost. if your joints get sore or sex drive dives, you are taking too much
clen, as outlined above
9-12
winstrol tabs 50mg ED
*
PCT should start about 2 wks after your last shot, Nolvadex 40mg ED for 1 wk, the 20mg for 2 more wks
A. I would hold off on tren for a first cycle. I've mentioned in a number of other answers that it just isn't well suited for the new user. Test would help...but when I say help, steroids aren't going to directly burn fat. They are going to help preserve and build muscle, while on a cal restricted diet. If your diet isn't going to get you lean, you'll end up disapointed with your fat loss goals. As for the test you use, I would not use prop. Once again, I've talked a lot lately as to why prop isn't a good first time cycle. Stick with a long acting test that will be less painful when injected into virgin muscle, and only has to be pinned 2x wk, vs ED or EOD. You can add an AI, like adex, in order to keep estrogen under control and maintain a less bloated look. Remember though, that AAS will make you more sensitive to sodium. You don't need to eat low sodium on a cutting diet, but you do want to keep the sodium stable from day to day.
Clen would be a great addition to the cycle, starting at 40mcg ED and adding 20mcg every 2 wks, until you get to 120mcg, then staying at that dose for the rest of the cycle. There are other ways to run clen, which you may see, if you surf the forums, but IMO, this is the best way. It works well enough to get me to low single digit body fat.*
If you want to dry out a little more, and push things a little further, adding a DHT based drug like winstrol oral, toward the end will help to dry you out and look harder. It's ideal to add in, once you are already close to being lean. *
Here is how I would set it up :
1-12
test e 350mg to 500mg EW, split into 2 shots
adex .5mg 2x wk to EOD, as needed to control blost. if your joints get sore or sex drive dives, you are taking too much
clen, as outlined above
9-12
winstrol tabs 50mg ED
*
PCT should start about 2 wks after your last shot, Nolvadex 40mg ED for 1 wk, the 20mg for 2 more wks
