recreational drugs...

Hey Tiny just be carefull.. I used coke for weight loss.. figured it cost about $100 to lose a lb.  LOL..  Then one night someone cooked it up and said try a little.. I said what the hell.. and my recreational use took me right out of the gym and into a detox and 2 rehabs..  I thought I could controll it.. we all do... but it does work.. I prefer ECA now  :) and have been sober almost 6 years..dont even drink and am totally focused and disciplined ..  and smoking weed made me hungry.. but I lost all motivation to train... but my partner couldnt train if he wasnt hi.. go figure
 
btw.. i also asked the very same question on the fitnessboard.. in the rec.drugs forum... i'm curious to see what the pro rec.drug guys say ..

tiny
 
i have read a few articles in which state that marijuana can be used as a natural thermogenic.. although it does stimulate appetite it also speeds your metabolic rate... one article was saying that if you smoke out then eat alot of food its pretty much just burning it all ... i was thinking if you smoked then didnt eat then it could be used to lose weight.
 
<!--QuoteBegin--Pumpdog+Mar. 20 2002,04:31--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Pumpdog @ Mar. 20 2002,04:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->- Weed: Obvioulsy will increase appetite. Actually, they have isolated the chemical that induces the "munchies" and market it as a drug for AIDS patients to prevent wasting ... It is called Marinol. THAT has bodybuilding uses written all over it.[/quote]
Marinol is essentially synthetic THC. Weed has about a dozen other cannabinoids in it... While THC is the most psychoactive agent, there are other as well. That's what constitutes to the differences of the "high" between different brands of weed. It's not just the raw amount of THC...

For a BBer, Marinol is a poor substitute. If you only look at the difference in administration (Marinol is administered orally), Marinol loses because it takes a long time to kick in. Marinol takes anything between half an hour to a few hours to start kicking and affects up to 5-10 hours. Weed (smoked) kicks in fully in a matter of minutes. Now since THC loses it's effect in the body quite quickly, smoking it makes controlling the dosage easier. You will need a lot more Marinol than you would need weed. Also if you want to get the Marinol to kick in fast, you will need an empty stomach. That's bad for a BBer... If you want to get hungry, do you want to get hungry right now or maybe in 1-5 hours or maybe not at all?

Because Marinol is only THC, it has far more psychoactive sides than weed. Some might like it, but... Seriously, Marinol is just plain worse for increasing a patients appetite in a safe and controlled manner. The only thing why Marinol was even created is that Marijuana is a rec drug and admitting that it has any medical use would be bad for the system.
 
<!--QuoteBegin--tiny+Mar. 20 2002,8:06--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tiny @ Mar. 20 2002,8:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->now, instead of adding ephedra or T3 we introduce SMALL amounts of amphetamin.. like 1/6th or 1/10th of a gram(not sure what the average dosage is).. or more..or less.. whatever.. use the amphetamine early in the morning in addition to cardio on a empty stommack with just a proteinshake in it.. eca the rest of the day..[/quote]
Amphetamine is not good for BBing IMO. First of all, there is nothing worse than meth hangover. You want to do more, and will do more if you got more. Also it is a very strong appetite suppressant. You can simply forget to eat for days. Some people even find it impossible to eat... Even after having not eatet for two days, trying to eat half a hot dog can cause you to puke it up right away.

Shit, dude, try it once and you will know. It won't kill you. Just get enough for that one time, and no more. It starts like partying at night... Then just once you do a little in the morning to get to work. Then you do it every morning and maybe once in a while after lunch to fight the sleepiness.

A friend of mine, who has done all the drugs you know about and a few more, had to flush all his meth down the toilet the other day because it was interfering with his normal life too much.
 
Stick w/ AAS. Fuck the recreational drugs. Bad news <!--emo&**--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='**'><!--endemo-->
 
Cocaine destroys muscle tissue (including heart) on contact.  Any stimulant combined w/AS can raise your BP dangerously high.  Alcohol, benzos (valium, xanax, etc.) and most opiates lower natural test production.  Weed raises estrogen levels, but may help with appetite.  I just say no to recs.  Respect your body, bro! :)
 
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Cocaine destroys muscle tissue (including heart) on contact.  Any stimulant combined w/AS can raise your BP dangerously high.  Alcohol, benzos (valium, xanax, etc.) and most opiates lower natural test production.  Weed raises estrogen levels, but may help with appetite.  I just say no to recs.  Respect your body, bro!  
properly pumped Posted on Mar. 24 2002,11:59
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Stick w/ AAS. Fuck the recreational drugs. Bad news  
ancalagon Posted on Mar. 23 2002,3:58
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Quote (tiny @ Mar. 20 2002,8:06)
now, instead of adding ephedra or T3 we introduce SMALL amounts of amphetamin.. like 1/6th or 1/10th of a gram(not sure what the average dosage is).. or more..or less.. whatever.. use the amphetamine early in the morning in addition to cardio on a empty stommack with just a proteinshake in it.. eca the rest of the day..

Amphetamine is not good for BBing IMO. First of all, there is nothing worse than meth hangover. You want to do more, and will do more if you got more. Also it is a very strong appetite suppressant. You can simply forget to eat for days. Some people even find it impossible to eat... Even after having not eatet for two days, trying to eat half a hot dog can cause you to puke it up right away.

Shit, dude, try it once and you will know. It won't kill you. Just get enough for that one time, and no more. It starts like partying at night... Then just once you do a little in the morning to get to work. Then you do it every morning and maybe once in a while after lunch to fight the sleepiness.

A friend of mine, who has done all the drugs you know about and a few more, had to flush all his meth down the toilet the other day because it was interfering with his normal life too much.
ancalagon Posted on Mar. 23 2002,3:50
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Quote (Pumpdog @ Mar. 20 2002,04:31)
- Weed: Obvioulsy will increase appetite. Actually, they have isolated the chemical that induces the "munchies" and market it as a drug for AIDS patients to prevent wasting ... It is called Marinol. THAT has bodybuilding uses written all over it.

Marinol is essentially synthetic THC. Weed has about a dozen other cannabinoids in it... While THC is the most psychoactive agent, there are other as well. That's what constitutes to the differences of the "high" between different brands of weed. It's not just the raw amount of THC...

For a BBer, Marinol is a poor substitute. If you only look at the difference in administration (Marinol is administered orally), Marinol loses because it takes a long time to kick in. Marinol takes anything between half an hour to a few hours to start kicking and affects up to 5-10 hours. Weed (smoked) kicks in fully in a matter of minutes. Now since THC loses it's effect in the body quite quickly, smoking it makes controlling the dosage easier. You will need a lot more Marinol than you would need weed. Also if you want to get the Marinol to kick in fast, you will need an empty stomach. That's bad for a BBer... If you want to get hungry, do you want to get hungry right now or maybe in 1-5 hours or maybe not at all?

Because Marinol is only THC, it has far more psychoactive sides than weed. Some might like it, but... Seriously, Marinol is just plain worse for increasing a patients appetite in a safe and controlled manner. The only thing why Marinol was even created is that Marijuana is a rec drug and admitting that it has any medical use would be bad for the system.
Bigg Johnny Posted on Mar. 23 2002,11:38
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i have read a few articles in which state that marijuana can be used as a natural thermogenic.. although it does stimulate appetite it also speeds your metabolic rate... one article was saying that if you smoke out then eat alot of food its pretty much just burning it all ... i was thinking if you smoked then didnt eat then it could be used to lose weight.
tiny Posted on Mar. 23 2002,09:41
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btw.. i also asked the very same question on the fitnessboard.. in the rec.drugs forum... i'm curious to see what the pro rec.drug guys say ..

tiny
tiny Posted on Mar. 23 2002,09:36
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well .. i doubt i'll try it ..lol... but a fun discussion it was ..  

tiny
johnnyboy845 Posted on Mar. 22 2002,9:07
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Hey Tiny just be carefull.. I used coke for weight loss.. figured it cost about $100 to lose a lb.  LOL..  Then one night someone cooked it up and said try a little.. I said what the hell.. and my recreational use took me right out of the gym and into a detox and 2 rehabs..  I thought I could controll it.. we all do... but it does work.. I prefer ECA now   and have been sober almost 6 years..dont even drink and am totally focused and disciplined ..  and smoking weed made me hungry.. but I lost all motivation to train... but my partner couldnt train if he wasnt hi.. go figure
RAMPAGE Posted on Mar. 22 2002,08:43
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YOUR ABSOLUTELY RIGHT !!!!! tiny....LOL ..WHENEVER I SEE SOMEONE ON GEAR THEY LOOK GREAT MOST OF THE TIME BUT WHENEVER I SEE A CRACKHEAD THEN ......GO HEAD TRY IT KEEP US POSTED tiny...
jstrong20 Posted on Mar. 20 2002,9:46
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Quote (tiny @ Mar. 20 2002,3:23)
basically cause dnp sucks ass.. lol ..

tiny


PhatSack Posted on Mar. 20 2002,8:53
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Quote (tiny @ Mar. 21 2002,01:22)
Quote (RAMPAGE @ Mar. 21 2002,05:16)
nooooooooooo waaayyyyy BRO!!!!!damn A MOD ASKING THIS QUESTION? MAKES YOU THINK ABOUT THE ADVICE......BRO JUST WORK OUT.. EVERYTHING TAKES TIME SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY'S IN A RUSH AROUND HERE!!!!!!EVEN WITH THE GEAR...TRAIN -DIET AND GIVE IT TIME YOU GUYS ACT LIKE THE WORLD IS OVER IN 10 WEEKS .....    

YOU TYPED IN UPPERCASE FIRST ..

YOU USE ANABOLIC STEROIDS RIGHT..? RIGHT.. YOU USE ECA RIGHT..? RIGHT.. YOU USE WHATEVER THE hell YOU CAN USE TO BETTER YOU'RE BODY RIGHT..? RIGHT...

PEOPLE ARE USING DNP FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.. NOW, WHAT IF REC.DRUGS ACCTUALLY COULD HELP IN SOME WAY.. AID IN BULKING OR CUTTING ... IF YOU GOT BIG BY USING A PERTICULAR REC.DRUG.. WOULDN'T YOU THEN USE IT..? I WOULD THINK SO AND IF NOT, WHY..? BECAUSE IT IS LISTED AS A REC.DRUG AND NOT A ANABOLIC STEROID..? .. YOU'RE ALREADY USING GEAR TO BETTER YOU'RE BODY AND GET AN EDGE.. WHY NOT SOME SORT OF REC.DRUG..? IT'S ALL ABOUT PRO'S AND CON'S RIGHT..? RIGHT..

TELL ME I'M WRONG.. I DOUBLE DARE YA.. I FUCKING DOUBLE, DOUBLE DARE YA ...



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Hey look i quoted everyobody
 
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<!--QuoteBegin--bodmin+Mar. 29 2002,6:38--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bodmin @ Mar. 29 2002,6:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Tiny...you give bodybuilding a bad name. What's this shit with drugs, man? <!--emo&/?--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='/?'><!--endemo-->[/quote]
and why do you say that..? please elabourate...
 
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