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Test prop & tren + MC IGF??

cream123 said:
i bought 55 ML of prop and only 20 ml of tren so I will be running out of tren before I am out of prop. At that point should I increase my prop dosage? Maybe instead of 150mgs EOD do 100mgs ED? or just drop the tren and keep the prop steady? I have no sides so far and I'm taking .5 arimidex every Monday and Thursday, but my concern is that I could throw off my body and cause acne. I really don't want that to happen. Or do you think it's best to discontinue both when I run out of tren and save the rest for another cycle. I really really don't want to break out with acne. I eat clean and drink a lot of water but if I throw off my estrogen levels I could cause sides right?


Presser see I would do more of MC IGF but one of your posts said that if you go over 60mcg daily you run the risk of downregulating your IGF receptor.
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yeah that must have been an old post, as i use to go by what was available to read back then and everyone said your recpetors downregualte after 4-5 weeks and and after so many mcgs, however that was like a decade ago or so, I stay on igf-1 lr3 long term and feel the effects for many months on end,

as for not going over 60mcg, that just my general dosage, since i stay on it long term i keep my daily dose even at about 60mcgs daily. But just cause you go over 60mcgs daily doesnt mean your going to down regulate your receptors , many guys swear by 100mcgs daily, and some guys who compete use two to three times that precontest, so its all trial and error til you find what works for you. Just remember a lot of the articles out there were written a long long time ago, and out dated
 
So cool I just found this!

I'm actually about to run the same cycle with a few additions.

Test Prop: 150mg/150mg/150mg/150mg/150mg/150mg EOD

Tren Ace: 50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg EOD

Dbol: 50mg/50mg/50mg ED

MSTEN Starting Week 3: 20mg/30mg/30mg/30mg/40mg ED

Igf1-LR3: 60-80mcg ED, I'm not stopping this until next year sometime. Been on for a few months now after a short break.


I will throw in some DTA (100mg/EOD) in place of the TREN if the sides are too much.
I've never ran TREN, so we'll see.

I really want to get back on the DTA (because it's Awesome with IGF!),
so I may run it starting @ week 6, and continue through weeks 10-12 with a low dose of Test and IGF of course.

Are you still running this cycle?
What type of gains have you seen?
 
PUMPED said:
I would also like to know this? Prop/tren/IGF combo is my go to after turning 30 years old... I am 40 now! 100mg prop/ mon,wed,fri "50mg in each muscle worked that day". 100mg of tren/ tues,thr,sat " 50mg in each muscle work that day". 25mcg of IGF at 5am hour before my 1st meal, 25mcg of IGF 30min post workout at 12 noon.
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With MC IGF1 LR3 having a Half-Life of up to 30 hours, I'm not sure why you would split the dose like that?
It seems if you just take it every day, your levels will remain pretty consistent.
I also thought it was best to get in your carbs/protein at 15min post injection for best results.
How did you come up with this schedule? Did you experiment and find that it worked better for you?
Just curious.

I like to run 60-80mcg IGF bilaterally/ED, depending on where it's going.
I know you can still benefit from it at doses as low as 20mcg/ED, but I love the PUMPS from higher doses (especially @ doses >100mcg)!
I wish I could afford to run 100mcg/ED for a while. I may be able to pretty soon with my new job though. Oh yeah!!

That seems like a lot of Tren also. Do you run Ace or Enth?
If Ace, do you see that much of a difference from 50-100mg/EOD?
What about sides? I know it's different for everyone, but it seems like that would be pretty harsh.

I'm 36, so I'm getting up there with you bro! Your cycle sounds good.
What type of gains do you usually get in say, 6 weeks?

Thanks bro!
 
You are 100% correct bro I am experiment to see how things work with IGF now vs when I was mid 20's. Years ago I did GH at 2ius every 3 hours ED. Sorry if I don't share my gains on this plan bro. I might not follow the same plan/workout next time. One thing is for sure I get the most out of a 4-6 week blast with the right post cycle, followed by another blast. hope this helps.
 
Ok I have been getting excellent feedback on this thread and I want to thank you guys for helping instead of finding a way to rip me apart. Now im coming down to my last month and there are so many diff ways one can run PCT. im
gong to be all out of tren soon and then will be running 1.5cc EOD or 1cc ED until I'm all out of prop. I probably got a solid 3 weeks left. I have 1000mcg of HCG and Arimidex on hand. I also hAve some clomid on hand also but I will need more.
Fortunately a Money is a non issue for me. What is the best way in your professional opinions to come off? Should I get the clomid and nolva from the MC store? I want to order tonight. And what doses over how many weeks should I take? I should take the HCG during the last 2 weeks of my cycle then what?
 
cream123 said:
Ok I have been getting excellent feedback on this thread and I want to thank you guys for helping instead of finding a way to rip me apart. Now im coming down to my last month and there are so many diff ways one can run PCT. im
gong to be all out of tren soon and then will be running 1.5cc EOD or 1cc ED until I'm all out of prop. I probably got a solid 3 weeks left. I have 1000mcg of HCG and Arimidex on hand. I also hAve some clomid on hand also but I will need more.
Fortunately a Money is a non issue for me. What is the best way in your professional opinions to come off? Should I get the clomid and nolva from the MC store? I want to order tonight. And what doses over how many weeks should I take? I should take the HCG during the last 2 weeks of my cycle then what?
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Yeah bro you can start the clomid right after last prop injection at 50mg daily and if you haven't already been on arimidex during cycle then it's smart to start nolvadex with clomid and nolvadex at 40mg daily first few days then down to 20mg there on out. If you still have igf-1 lr3 on hand I would keep using it through the your pct as it will help u keep most of ur gains.

And if you order the clo and nol in our store pm me the order number and I'll tighten your order up a little!!!
 
So I'm going to take this plan and do my twist to it.
100 prop eod, 75 tren eod, 80 igf ed, 75 proviron ed, 300 cyp week, 200 clen ed

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@presser

i have been running arimidex all the way thru. But I wouldn't mind taking nolva during PCT just to be extra safe. Is that okay to do?
 
@presser thanks for the additional advice. Going to order tonight. You said to PM you to "tighten" my order and I appreciate that all I would ask is get it out to me as fast as you can bc I been outta arimidex since sat and I'm about to pump my prop to 100mgs ED for the last 4 weeks.... Also one last question. How should I run the 1000mcgs of HCG? Or in your opinion that's not necessary?

also I Been ordering off this site for like 7 years. I think I had a few diff screen names and mailing addresses but I've bought prob 20 bottles of IGF. That shit is great
 
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