Im using 40mg of OT right now with some Tren, Test, and Eq and LOVING it... Im on week 6 of this cycle and only put on about 5 lbs though, however, its doing EXACTLY what I wanted it to do.. replace fat with LBM... so far this cycle is amazing, even though gains really didnt kick in till week 5.5 it was well worth the wait. I set an all time high on my squats today.. 375 for 6 (last set). Also, the OT is giving good fullness and good pumps, not a whole lot of weight increase, and NO bloat. Good luck!