I do tren and start my PCT at the same time and run it for about 60 days, I keep all the muscle and even add a littlie, it trims off all the water and fat It's one thing about my cycles I've figured out works good, very good. last time after bulking I ran 60 days of tren gained 3in in the chest and dropped 7in in the waist I was impressed.
But that's just me