more is better. I know more muscle is better and its most of our goals here. But what about volumes of juice. i remember when a six week cycle of maybe just test and winny was a good hard cycle and people got good gains from it. Now its the norm to run 16-20 week cycles with 3 or 4 steroids stcked throughout , usually including insulin or other substances like T-3 or clen and lots of ancillarys because of the insane dosages. I honestly think we are getting a little used to seeing huge dosages and just thinking thats normal. I plan to never compete and and i really dont want to be as big as someone who does compete in the heavy classes. I want to be fit and look great and be muscular enough to satisfy my goals for myself. Somewhere along the way i went from small dosages to keeping up with the trends and my cycle plans got to look ugly with large dosages and large amounts of cash. I just think i can temper my body plans with my cycle plans and avoid alot of sides , alot of costs , and alot of chnces of getting gyno.