yea, I would like to lose another 2" off my waist, since my chest isn't huge or anything, and keep my arms the same. I'm not using any gear, so I cant really lose muscle mass. One of my friends just started working out with me, he has the most ridiculous vascularity in his arms. Every vein shoots out and his triceps are enormous. I have the same bodyfat as him, or maybe even a % less, but his vascularity looks like he is 5% bodyfat. That pisses me off.