Well I'm natural and tend to be bigger than most people I know on drugs. Most of the people in gyms that I work out think I'm on drugs just because they see someone who has been working out more than 25 years. So the moral of story is - it's not what you're on, it's what you're doing as far as training and eating goes that really makes a difference. Because if you're not anything before you get on drugs, you're not going to be anything after.