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cycles dont = people using them

well there was alot of good points made. And I believe it has to come down to two things.

1. Gear is either bunk, very low grade, or way under dosed.

2. Some people just dont responed well at all.

I would be willing to bet most cases are a combo of both.

That and diet. Look around at all the boards and all the newbies ask tons of questions about what gear to use and stack with what, and want to run oral only, but no questions about what or how much to eat.
I wonder too how truthful people are, it is the internet after all. I bet a lot of people that post their cycles are lying there asses off to look cool.

My first cycle was started when I was about 225, I did 400mg cyp a week for 10 weeks and 30mg dbol ED the first 6 weeks. I got up to 265! Tons of water weight though, I was puffy as fuck. Got down to 240 on PCT.
 
And one day You guys will all find out that I "Presser" am realy this skinny little irish kid who is actualy posting my big cousin Vinnys pictures and saying that they are pics of me,lmao. yes yes I have you all fooooled bwhahahahaha



ROFL! Seriously i cant believe that happened... i always wondered that though of how many people on these boards are posers, so to speak. Im a bubblegummer in all this stuff, im just a big country boy. But im learning and workin toward better days so i hope that counts for something.
 
Wow this one of the coolest threads I've seen all year. Press, it's nice to hear your the slightest bit critical ;)

But I disagre with the rep philosphy: I think reps should look the part of at least a well-trained lifter. Saud would be a perfect example; He's lean, dedicated, and knowedgable. He's not exactly a big BBr but he doesn't claim to be one and from what I understand, he does this as a hobby strictly. Chris and Presss reresent the other end: massive and either compete or did compete. It's cool to have that sort of balance.

Thanks for the compliments, bro. Well, I don't claim to be a big bb'er yet, lol. I'm working on it. :) That was the whole reason I signed up back in 2004, and I've learned a lot along the way. IF I can get this eating thing down, I just may go for a competition. NPCUtah has one in October this year (non-drug tested). Maybe that's too soon, but there will be another comp soon after that. I have advised quite a few people so far, and they've gained well, so I hope I'm doing something right.
 
Thanks for the compliments, bro. Well, I don't claim to be a big bb'er yet, lol. I'm working on it. :) That was the whole reason I signed up back in 2004, and I've learned a lot along the way. IF I can get this eating thing down, I just may go for a competition. NPCUtah has one in October this year (non-drug tested). Maybe that's too soon, but there will be another comp soon after that. I have advised quite a few people so far, and they've gained well, so I hope I'm doing something right.

You'll be amazed at how much more of a "bodybuilder" you become after your first time on stage. Suddenly things start to carry significantly more importance. I was horrified before my first comp, now I look forward to nothing more!
 
And one day You guys will all find out that I "Presser" am realy this skinny little irish kid

Im a skinny half samoan kid that is tat'ed up like crazy...

Nuk,

Some people (like me) have different motives, different expectations, and different reasons for being on the board and in the gym..

You and I are close geographically and have hung out a few times...Im prob not even 1/4 of your size but for me it takes motivation from friends like you to keep me going in the gym, even though I have totally different objectives in the gym than you.

Approaching 36 yrs old this winter for me my motivations are to lean up, get into shape and have a great looking body. My LARGEST fear is to end up looking like my father...love the man to death but at 64 I dont want a huge belly and be winded after walking up the stairs to my room.

A great comparison to this situation is MMA....how many AWESOME trainers and coaches are out there?, You NEVER see Greg Jackson step into the octogon to fight...but he is in the corner of his fighters telling them what to do..

At this age and body build in my life, I could never catch up to you...so I try learn from you and do the best that I can for myself and support your goals and you as my friend the best that I can..
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