Need thoughts on TRT issues and ideas on testosterone replacement therapy

[Muscle mechanic]

What I am telling u is to shut my mind off I build back confidence with the porn. Why a woman dildoing herself, because I am not interested in seeing a man just a woman wanting it. I have done this enough and then I use the thought of my old lady wanting it and that thought I have gets brought into the bed room with the confidence instead of the worry.
Trust me I know it's an issue with hormones I know from myself but these things help. I also learned it's an issue that played on my mind. I have asked my wife to help in these ways cause I need more of turn on and for play.
When I brought this up she said so it's me, I said no, she said well it's your issue don't blame me now.
I then said well it works for the porn because I experimented cause dr told me to to bring back confidence. Well she helped with for play and teasing even making me wait a couple days, holding out. Let me tell u she knows when it happens now how to make me want it buy not exactly get it when I want. Now it's more of a challenge instead of the challenge with my dick

 

[EMW14]

Well, I had yet another ED event today. I am wondering if the test prop and/or mast prop is maybe way underdosed or even the real thing. I expected to get some bad acne since mast is DHT based and with the major increase in testosterone. I took a half ml of Adex with my first test prop/mast injection but none with the 2nd (EOD injections of 1 ml (100 mg) each). No acne whatsoever; in fact, what I was getting from just my 180 mg/wk of test cyp is clearing up. I am starting to gain some weight, though, which has been stalled until I started with the test prop. So that makes mrle think it must be the real thing...

So, the bottom line is, I really have no fucking idea what is going on. I'll stick it out a little while longer but I'm not real hopeful I'm onto any kind of solution. And I am NOT digging the pin cushion effect, like I said before. It's a lot of oil to be injecting at once and I already don't like the 2x per week cyp injections. I am gonna try switching to 25 ga puns instead of the 21's I'm using, that may help some.

I really don't know what to try next..... Maybe when I drop tje test prop I'll "fall" back into a good range. Fucking wish I could figure this shit out... It has gotten extremely tiresome, to say the least.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Just keep at it. I usually just do it for other effects and after it builds enough my sex drive kicks in. I never add or increase my ai until I start getting water retention or high blood pressure. Dht side effects with acne can take awhile because oil build up from sebaceous glands has to start but first get bound to receptors in those areas.
What is weird is some times I get acne on blast other times I don't and I usually only do with fluctuations. Like when I ramp up or back off. Some people I know say it takes 2 weeks for test prop to kick in sex drive it kicks mine in 2 days. Some guys say test c 4 weeks me 3 days.
Let your body adjust to the hormones.
More on ai I never ever adjust on a blast until I see symptoms I sometimes can do a whole blast with no acne sometimes it makes my acne go away completely till I come off yeah really and gain are resealant and sex drive through roof. And sometimes I can blast 750 test with some other juice and an oral and not have to adjust ai until about 8 week mark. I never ever adjust aI if libido is up and dick working good. There is a place between ED and it's called good range estro. Too high no good and Ed too low no good and Ed. It is possible to not convert on prop especially with masteron. Masteron helps lower estro with prop especially unless dose is like 150-200 prop a day. Prop is very stable at eod pins

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Do venoglute.HIP injection. Heat gear up under hot water with only body of syringe under running water until heat expansion makes a couple drop drip out needle on its own. Injection very slow in muscle tenses and hard to squeeze trigger stop with it in and move till muscle relaxes thenot it goes easy and never hurts. Last blast even with tren and prop I only did glutes and hip ofor both sides never had an issue

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What brand of gear u have?

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One thing to add is alot of times when I add more gear I get a diuretic effect at first and lose weight. This is normal due to less aldosterone conversation and the gear suppressing glucoride hormones

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Also estro too low will make skin bad and maje some nasty pimples. Estro is good for your skin and lots of things it's fluctuations that cause acne too flare from gear and not the gear. Overtime our sebaceous activities will build up but not at first.

 

[EMW14]

Do venoglute.HIP injection. Heat gear up under hot water with only body of syringe under running water until heat expansion makes a couple drop drip out needle on its own. Injection very slow in muscle tenses and hard to squeeze trigger stop with it in and move till muscle relaxes thenot it goes easy and never hurts. Last blast even with tren and prop I only did glutes and hip ofor both sides never had an issue

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What brand of gear u have?

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One thing to add is alot of times when I add more gear I get a diuretic effect at first and lose weight. This is normal due to less aldosterone conversation and the gear suppressing glucoride hormones

Brand is Legend, which I had good luck with once before.

I've seen you mention hip injection before. I gotta admit, I'm a little nervous about that, and with Presser's story of hitting a nerve in his quad, I'm nervous about that, too. Maybe with shorter pins... I only have 21 x 1.5's currently.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Brand is Legend, which I had good luck with once before.

I've seen you mention hip injection before. I gotta admit, I'm a little nervous about that, and with Presser's story of hitting a nerve in his quad, I'm nervous about that, too. Maybe with shorter pins... I only have 21 x 1.5's currently.

I am about same size as u. I only use 1" 22ga. Hip is easy.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Brand is Legend, which I had good luck with once before.

I've seen you mention hip injection before. I gotta admit, I'm a little nervous about that, and with Presser's story of hitting a nerve in his quad, I'm nervous about that, too. Maybe with shorter pins... I only have 21 x 1.5's currently.

EMW, where my glute injection is located.
1-)I find that area.
2-)I find highest point to pin in that glute area.
3-)I then remove weight off leg to search for hip area. If I stand side facing mirror and lean to one side hip muscle pops out in a relaxed position. Feel it it's diamond shaped and very soft and above joint. NO NERVES OR VESSELS OR LOCATED IN HIP AREA.
4-) the reason I found my glute upper first is because I can inject with 1"pin from hip spot in a line to upper most part glute area, giving me a very long line on each side to move over a little each pin.
5-) I myself have no problems doing this. I hold pin in one hand I pull skin down and tight with other making sure it's soft at sametime. I put pin against skin and turn back and forth with pressure. I never jab. If u hit anything this way u can remove or just pull out a little and point in at different angle. Never ever have a sore injection this way. And with heat to oil in body of syringe first. I use thus technique for everywhere except delt injection. I use 22ga 1" for everything. I also can use 3/4" in these areas. I never use anything bigger than 1"

 

[EMW14]

EMW, where my glute injection is located.
1-)I find that area.
2-)I find highest point to pin in that glute area.
3-)I then remove weight off leg to search for hip area. If I stand side facing mirror and lean to one side hip muscle pops out in a relaxed position. Feel it it's diamond shaped and very soft and above joint. NO NERVES OR VESSELS OR LOCATED IN HIP AREA.
4-) the reason I found my glute upper first is because I can inject with 1"pin from hip spot in a line to upper most part glute area, giving me a very long line on each side to move over a little each pin.
5-) I myself have no problems doing this. I hold pin in one hand I pull skin down and tight with other making sure it's soft at sametime. I put pin against skin and turn back and forth with pressure. I never jab. If u hit anything this way u can remove or just pull out a little and point in at different angle. Never ever have a sore injection this way. And with heat to oil in body of syringe first. I use thus technique for everywhere except delt injection. I use 22ga 1" for everything. I also can use 3/4" in these areas. I never use anything bigger than 1"

Mechanic, I'm going to have to try that. I'll need to get some shorter pins first, though.

Tell you what, I don't know how anyone does a short ester cycle. My ass cheeks are literally bruised. 2 ml of gear EOD (100/100 test/mast prop). And I do move the site around a little to avoid hitting the exact same spot... I ain't gonna keep this up for long, that's for sure.

It's not working anyhow. You said test prop is very stable at EOD injections, but I wonder if the short ester makes for too much up amd down. I'm not 100% sure of this, but yesterday, the day of injection, several hours later I had pretty decent wood, but no opportunity to use it, so I can't really know if it woulda lasted or not. Today, however, I had another failure. Viagra to the rescue.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Legit prop at 50 every other day with my trt dose gives me noticeable gains in 7-8 days. With masteron prop too I would have noticed gains good enough to shrug off pain.
I am suspect of your gear being dosed proper. I would have noticed gains encouragable gains with sex drive from those two. And yes EOD is stable with prop. Acetate not as stable but prop stable eod.
Not telling u your stuff is no good but what I notice from myself. From just trt into prop 300 more a week and not hitting a blast recently I would have noticed body changes pumps sex drive that would be encouraging after the first week. Test e or c or deca 3 weeks but short esters 1. 2 is longest I have ever heard of kick in with anyone.
Just finish it up and if no changes reveal soon get blood testosterone test and see where u at. U can get source to refund or fix u up or he will have his reputation on the line blood levels don't lie. Also I would bet PLS stuff, or pharmacon, PCT , or Robo's gear would do the job needed. U can always test with there gear
Like I said it should be noticed within a week if not couple days for sex drive no matter where estro is at from the beginning it takes a while for things to get out of wack.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I shouldn't knock them if I haven't tried them but I wouldn't have used legend. I haven't heard enough good about them. I can't speak about them being I never tried but my research has kept me clear

 

[EMW14]

Yeah, I'm suspect of the quality also. Though I am gaining weight and I'm not looking too watery, so I dunno... Regardless I am thinking I might take another whack at it from a different source. I'm fucking done with short esters, though. Between the low mg/ml requiring more oul injected plus the eod injections, it ain't for me.

Biggest problem with mast enth is the shit is expensive! Hate to spend a ton of $ on an experiment. Especially if it doesn't work.

I do know my last order from Legend was legit because I got bloodwork while on it, but that was over 2 years ago that I bought it and as you say there are widely mixed reviews. But then, if you look hard enough, you find that with any source....

Like I said, I'm thinking maybe try 500 mg a week test cyp using what I have from the pharmacy, I know that's legit, and get some mast enth from somewhere. Maybe PSL. I don't fuckin know.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

If u making some gains then something is happening. Try leaving your ai same as it was during trt dose only. Masteron helps lower estro by binding I wanna say.
I usually leave ai alone during blast unless I get water retention, high blood pressure, or ED. I try to keep ai just high enough to fight ED from high estro. The estro only bothers me if things above occur. Two things are always prevalent
1-ED with low estro = no water retention or high blood less energy getting kind of sick. No sex drive at all and ED when try. Depressed feeling.
2-ED from high estro=water retention with high blood pressure anxiety rapid heart beat hot flashes sweating for no reason. MoodyNess temper. Sex drive with hard then soft. Weak hardon. I get a swollen feeling that makes me not wanna do as much is water retention sets in. But I rather recognize water enjoy benefits then to keep my estro too low.
I find happy place in between and took me longtime to figure out. I only been on trt for almost 4 years but had cruised and blasted before.

 

[EMW14]

I haven't used any AI since my 1st test prop injection because as far as I can tell, I'm not having any estro related side effects and I've never cured ED by manipulating estro either up or down. But then again, I've never run this high a dose of test, either. Worth a try,

 

[Muscle mechanic]

When I hit a blast, it's usually no less thand 600 mg a week. If it's prop I do 150-200 eod. E or c preferably 750.
When I do this my sex drive gets so high with woods that I gotta beat off cause wife can only take so much. If I lean against counter while shaving it will get hard. Any chick at store that looks hot hard. It gets to point that it's all across pants at store and shit. Lol!
But this is what high levels of test do to me and most other people. Just wanted to say that.

 

[EMW14]

Yeah, well, consider yourself lucky. I'm at about 600 mg a week roght now total test (400 prop 200 cyp) plus 100 mast. And I got nothing. Well, not "nothing", but nothing usable. I used a half mg of Adex today with my injection of 100 t prop, 100 mast prop and 100 t cyp. We'll see if that makes any difference, but I'm not real hopeful. I'll ride this out for a little while longer before I try something else.

I want to try trestolone, and see that PSL now has it, but in that damned acetate ester. I'm not at all thrilled about EOD injections.

 

[EMW14]

Ok, I'm calling this experiment over. My last injection was Tuesday and consisted of .5 ml (100 mg) test cyp; 1 ml (100 mg) each of test prop amd mast prop. Total 2.5 ml. My ass is so freakin sore 2 days later (zero pip immediately after injection, this developed in the hours that followed, then got progressively worse over yesterday) that I'm concerned I may have an infection. Fortunately (?), I have a sinus infection, and just got on some heavy duty antibiotics for that, so hopefully, if there is an infection, that will take care of it. I don't want to risk possibly unsterirle gear... If it is, I must have contaminated it somehow, because it definitely did not do this to me initially. I'm pretty careful about injections and cleanliness, use alcohol pads, etc, so I don't know how yhis could have happened. It's possible that it isn't an infection and I'm just sore from the amount of oil?? I dunno.....

Regardless, this combo is not doing for me what I hoped it would in terms of ED. I may try 500 mg test cyp per week. I have enough of it in stock because my script is for 200/week but I only do 140 to 180 typically. But I refill the script as soon as I'm allowed, so I've built up a small stock of it. I may also get mast enth from a different source and see what happens, but I'm not real hopeful.

Off topic a little, but I am very surprised by a couple of things: I had some pretty bad acne developing from just my trt dose of test cyp at 180/week. I fully expected that to get a lot worse since I was adding 400mg test prop plus the same amount of mast prop, which is dht based. But, my acne actually cleared up! Also, I expected the amount of hair I see in the sink (I shower at night, so my wake up routine includes filling the sink bowl and running my hands/fingers in my hair to wet it in order to comb it) to increase from the mast. But the opposite happened. There is far less hair in the sink. I don't know what to make of all of that.

 

[EMW14]

Just about to be into my 2nd week at 600/week test cyp. Decided 2 = shots 300/300 Fri and Tues. This seems to be working for me at least a little bit.

Again, I am amazed at the lack of acne. Gow can it be that at 180/week I get huge zits, almost like boils, but at 600/week they clear up?? If my dick comes back to life fully I'll be thoroughly amazed.

I'm taking a minimum amount of Adex, 0.5 mg with my Friday shot. Will keep an eye out for itchy nipples or any other estro side effects.

If nothing else, I should gain a few pounds......

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Just about to be into my 2nd week at 600/week test cyp. Decided 2 = shots 300/300 Fri and Tues. This seems to be working for me at least a little bit.

Again, I am amazed at the lack of acne. Gow can it be that at 180/week I get huge zits, almost like boils, but at 600/week they clear up?? If my dick comes back to life fully I'll be thoroughly amazed.

I'm taking a minimum amount of Adex, 0.5 mg with my Friday shot. Will keep an eye out for itchy nipples or any other estro side effects.

If nothing else, I should gain a few pounds......

Let me put it to u like this, I am on trt 100 mg a week it works I am fully functional. But at higher doses I do much much better. In all areas acne clears for me too.
I don't even blasts for muscle gain completely, I do it also because I feel better.
Around 300-400 a week does me good and no sides come up. My red blood goes up around same at 100 or 300. I usually blast and cruise around 300 until 4-5 weeks before labs.
Why, everytime I stay at 100 a week after about 8 weeks pain flares up. I have rupture discs in lower back L4-S1 and in neck C4-c7. Bad wreck years ago. My neck is killing me now. Pinched nerve in shoulder from neck. I also get tendon pain and tendinitis but never until I am at low 100 week dose. Alot of factors of why? More water retention helps joints and spine, testosterone suppresses cortisol and inflammation.
Anyway I have Dr 17th and hurting so bad I will blast 600 test and 400 deca to start a week. I have no issue with deca as long as test is a little higher. But regardless of any of it all I end up with ED even from just 750 test around 75 days into blast. Sbhg lowering or binding supplements or steroids added to mixed always cure it though. I need to try Aromasin but don't wanna take too much Ai and mess up lipids. Anyways just wanted to ramble. Lol!
Good luck with your 600 week

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I get the huge boil type zits deep deep under surface. Right now am good though but get them alot. I say good but they not as bad and deep. Certain doses do it for me and not necessarily the larger doses.
I bought some rx "NuOx" from someone that had a shit slew of samples and proactive stuff at a garage sale for $5. Out of NuOx but a dab on these huge inflamed boil looking deep zits works like nothing else. Its rx benzoyl peroxide with sulfur. Works amazing want try and get script or order some.