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Ok here goes....

Cycle:
1ml 500mg/ml EQ (0.5ml 2x a week). I'll do 500mg/ml because I'm a tall lad. 12 weeks.

Diet: (protein in brackets)
Wakeup: 2 scoop banana whey (50g), 200ml egg white (20g), water + multivitamin
Once I reach work: 2 Nature Valley Protein/Peanut Bar (20g), Cola Zero
Lunch: Homemade 2 baked potato, 50g edamane beans, peas/other green veg mixed in as a salad with some mixed herbs for taste (20g protein)
After lunch sipping: 400g tofu (20g) blended with 2 scoop whey (40g) and 200ml egg white (20g) and water -- may add some fibre in here depending on how my stomach deals with this new diet
Before Bed: 2 scoop casein (50g) + fish oils

Total = ~2k cals, ~150g carb, ~50g fat, 250g protein

Is this too little calories for someone my age / height? Will it be hard to put on (muscle) weight like this? I'm trying to avoid yet another shake though...

Friday or Saturday (after a leg workout) swap the lunch for a pizza dinner as a cheat meal.

Exercise plan:
Monday and Thursday : Chest/ biceps + abs/calfs
Tuesday and Friday : Shoulders/ triceps + abs/calfs
Wednesday/ Saturday : Back/ legs + abs/calfs
Sunday: rest

3 exercises per bodypart of my choosing. 4 sets total, reps: 20/10/10/dropset to failure
 
just EQ? no TST?

and calories is imo very very little... i have 85kg 175cm and usually start my cut at 3300 calories... in lean bulk i eat cca 4000 kcal
 
You won't be eating enough. You need 7 meals a day, eating every 2 hours. Look for cleaner protein bars like Quest, One, etc. You should scratch all soft drinks from your diet. Stick to water, almond milk, or soy milk. I haven't ran any calculations to see what your caloric intake should be, but I believe you should be around 3000.


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Couple of questions:

1. Cola Zero or Diet Cola helps me turn my stomach "on". I went off carbonated drinks completely and felt weird, so went back (but always have Diet Cola or something not the full blown fizzy drinks). I swapped to Nocco also, which was just as good. Is it still bad?
2. I thought you said no dairy hence I cut off soy/almond milk. I love soy milk.
3. I can get Quest bars no problem.
4. I can add a mass shake, but then carbs go up. I can get to 3k calories but I am wondering what carbs / protein / fat g to aim for roughly? I can then use myfitnesspal and tweak it. It will probably have to be a bit mass shake it looks like to get the calories in.
 
Ok, maybe I missed this in the threat and if I did so, I apologize. But if your not going to be competing or getting ready to compete, eat anything and as much as you can. Sure gear is going to help, but if you don't feed the machine, your not going to grow. Food is the fuel that runs your body and to put on tissue, you have to have a surplus of fuel. You can do grams of gear and it will do very little if don't have the food to grow the tissue.

You need everything, fats, protein and carbs to gain the size you want. If you have a fast metabolism, then you need to eat even more. Eat, Eat, Eat!!
 
You won't look that way on a low carb, low fat diet. Eating fires your metabolism and actually encourages your body to burn, rather than store calories. Trust me on this. I'm not wrong. I eat 7 meals a day when I am in contest mode. I hold muscle and lean out by burning fat.


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I read your initial post to start this thread, but not all responses. I agree with with drtbear that you need to eat to grow. I wouldn't completely cut out anything, except garbage like fried food & sweets. Keep in mind that just because something works for another guy, doesn't mean it will work for you. I doubt going low carb is going to make your "dream body" come true lol. If you want more muscle, your going to have to lift big & eat big! Put some extra time in cardio as well.

Imo, like justice14 said, you need to get those eating issues figured out. That should be the first thing you do. Protein shakes just aren't enough. You need good whole food & lots of it. If I were you, I wouldn't even do a cycle until you get all that lined out.
 
Big Beef said:
I read your initial post to start this thread, but not all responses. I agree with with drtbear that you need to eat to grow. I wouldn't completely cut out anything, except garbage like fried food & sweets. Keep in mind that just because something works for another guy, doesn't mean it will work for you. I doubt going low carb is going to make your "dream body" come true lol. If you want more muscle, your going to have to lift big & eat big! Put some extra time in cardio as well.

Imo, like justice14 said, you need to get those eating issues figured out. That should be the first thing you do. Protein shakes just aren't enough. You need good whole food & lots of it. If I were you, I wouldn't even do a cycle until you get all that lined out.
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Not eating enough for someone who is wanting to gain weight is the same thing as eating too much that wants to lose weight...

No gear will fix this.

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hopesanddreams said:
Couple of questions:

1. Cola Zero or Diet Cola helps me turn my stomach "on". I went off carbonated drinks completely and felt weird, so went back (but always have Diet Cola or something not the full blown fizzy drinks). I swapped to Nocco also, which was just as good. Is it still bad?
2. I thought you said no dairy hence I cut off soy/almond milk. I love soy milk.
3. I can get Quest bars no problem.
4. I can add a mass shake, but then carbs go up. I can get to 3k calories but I am wondering what carbs / protein / fat g to aim for roughly? I can then use myfitnesspal and tweak it. It will probably have to be a bit mass shake it looks like to get the calories in.
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In my opinion, there aren't any soft drinks that should be part of your diet. If you felt weird after stopping them, that was your body adjusting to a cleaner diet.

There is no dairy in Almond or soy milk. They just call it milk when its not even close.

The other comments you are reading regarding eating a lot are true, but you have some unique dietary concerns that I am trying to work around. You definitely need to get some green vegetables in your diet to give you clean calories. Carbs aren't the enemy but you expressed concern about looking thick (paraphrasing). Carbs can have that effect.


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u can add a low dose of t3 in to your cycle... just to increase protein synthesis, carbohydrate utilization which alow u to eat more and slightly boost your metabolism
 
I have been off everything for a while now and saw the doctor today for my blood results. My test was 12.3ng/mol, before cycle it was closer to 20ng/mol with no roids, and on cycle it was about 50ng/mol. Does it mean my test is just really low (tbh this is the lowest I've ever seen in my blood work) or something is wrong? I just wanted to make sure I was okay before injecting myself with anything further. I'm assuming EQ is not exactly test so don't want to inject and not get some gains because my test or similar was way too low anyway. All advice is welcome.

Regarding diet - I'm making a better one and will upload soon.
 
Test counts will always be highest first thing in the morning. Time of day can effect results. Sounds like you run low naturally and gear will help.


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hopesanddreams said:
They took the blood test in the morning also lol.
Should I add test or anything or simply 500mg/ml EQ is sufficient?
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I think you should run the EQ and see what it does for you first. Remember to be patient. It isn't something that will show results immediately.


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I worked with a young man years ago that had many of the same issues. We worked hard and in a year he put on a lot of solid muscle and looked good. He had to eat a lot of food as he metabolism was ultra fast. I am talking 4000 calories a day and high carbs. 400 plus a day. He moved away and got a new trainer. In less than 3 months he had lost everything he had gained and was upset with the way he looked. He called me and we discussed what they new guy had him doing, he had him on low carbs, mod fat and hight protein. This diet would work for a lot of people but not this guy. I had him eat everything that he could get his hands on for the next week, 7500 Caloires a day he ate for the next week. Then we cleaned up the diet and now he is back around 215 pounds and solid as a rock, back from the 175 pound when he called me for help. You have to feed the machine and you have to know the person, what works for one, doesn't always work for another.
 
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