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I will let everyone in on a little secret. Things wont be much different when Trump leaves office so if you don't like him take a deep breath and relax. I lived by this through 8 years of Obama and it served me well. Dems will increase regulations and create entitlements and Republicans will get rid of the regulations and entitlements. It's just one big never ending cycle under swamp rules.
 
As owner of a relatively small hard core gym, (7K square feet), when your accountant and bookeeper are both saying, you think yr struggling now, if hillary gets in, it will be worse. Maybe the Dems intentions are good, but over regulation is a small biz killer. In my state, the min wage may go up to $15 hr in a few yrs, like I told a friend, look for inflation in this state to explode as biz owners ahem "adjust" thier prices to maintain profitability.
Will the people now at the higher min wage become consumers enough to spend what is now may be disposable income enough to compensate for a higher payroll costs is debatable

Some regulations are a good thing, challenge is where do you draw the line? Say for instance the Gov wants to inspect gym locker rooms for germs or whatever....I say let the consumer determine that, if my floors are unsanitary, yr welcome to go to my competition down the street. Uncle stay out of this!!
 
I think that when all is said and done, Trump will be a good president. The positive impact that he has made in the military along has been awesome. I just read that for the first time in 8 years there are Marines that are putting in to guard the White House, up until now they all had to be assigned as no one wanted the duty.

When you get down to the Paris Climate Agreement, it was all on the US. We paid billions, and had all of the regulations against us. I am not against clean energy but not at the cost of the American worker.
Correct me if I'm wrong re coal, but I believe the industry now has the ability and the knowledge to put better filters on coal producing plants, filters that take most of the toxins and polluntants out of the air. I too like the idea of clean energy, even think solar energy a good thing, but lets get these coal miners back to work.
 
As owner of a relatively small hard core gym, (7K square feet), when your accountant and bookeeper are both saying, you think yr struggling now, if hillary gets in, it will be worse. Maybe the Dems intentions are good, but over regulation is a small biz killer. In my state, the min wage may go up to $15 hr in a few yrs, like I told a friend, look for inflation in this state to explode as biz owners ahem "adjust" thier prices to maintain profitability.
Will the people now at the higher min wage become consumers enough to spend what is now may be disposable income enough to compensate for a higher payroll costs is debatable

Some regulations are a good thing, challenge is where do you draw the line? Say for instance the Gov wants to inspect gym locker rooms for germs or whatever....I say let the consumer determine that, if my floors are unsanitary, yr welcome to go to my competition down the street. Uncle stay out of this!!

Get ready for inflation and people being fired and those left being asked to double the workload. Minimum wage jobs are for kids and college students not adults. If you are an adult in one of these jobs you better take a long look in the mirror and figure out where things went wrong and try to correct them very quickly.

Get ready for automation as well, robots can already flip and completely make burgers.
 
Exactly!! I call it keyboard activism, because it is always the jackasses who don't actually DO anything outside of "expressing themselves" online lol.

That said, I'm staying waaaaay out of this one, except to say the following: Trump is a monster, and Hillary and the DNC are all monsters. You guys really had a raw deal in this election (if you can even call it that?). We were all shocked when Trump got in, but I wasn't. Frankly, I would have likely voted for him too just to stick it to the establishment and stand up for the disenfranchised. I would have regretted it later, though. Clearly this man does not represent the best interests of the everyday American men and women who voted for him.

Bernie's my guy 100%. I wish Canada could trade Trudeau for him.

I wish we could trade Trudeau for Sanders, too. Hell, we'll gladly throw in Obama and Hillary too, no extra charge!

I believe Sanders lkst the primary because he was an avowed communist, and Americans are rightly loathe to elect a communist. He moved SLIGHTLY off the left peg by calling himself a socialist - though I don't believe there was any change whatsoever in his ideology. But Americans - still rightly, because it's proving itself over amd over to not work - are loathe to elect a socialist. The major problem as I see it is that Hillary, Obama and just about all the rest of the left ARE socialists, but the don't admit it. Add to that the leftist media which braces them up; presents their policies, opinions and actions as "mainstream"; correct and proper; "morally right" and so forth. Now, the general population of Americans believes all this bullshit and takes it on. All the while never realizing that they are supporting a socialist agenda.

It's also a result of decades of leftist propaganda, beginning at the earliest stages of public school education. Long story, but my daughter is almost 25. When she was in elementary school, like 2nd grade, she came home with a reading assignment. The book was a simplistic (obviously - she was in 2nd grade) story about a community in some south American country who had been using a vacant lot for a community garden to which all the local families contributed and from which they all put vegetables on their tables. Along comes the property owner who wants to build something on HIS property. The story made the property owner out to be evil and wicked for booting the squatters and building a fence to protect his private property. In the end, the evil property owner saw the error of his ways. He took down the fence which deprived the community of their "right" to use his property; he bought the community a tractor to male their gardern more productive; and they all lived happily ever after.

In top of the "Have"s vs Have Not's" message implicit in this story, the cover of the book showed the "community" illustrated as every person of a different ethnic background. One was black; another Hispanic; another Oriental; another white, etc. There was no overt memtion of this in the book, but the "diversity" theme was being pushed, big time. Nevermind that it's a totally unrealistic presentation of a community in South America, where the vast majority is Hispanic. The main thrust of that story was that the benefit of the group trumps the rights of the individual; and that the "underpriveleged" (the community was obviously poor) "DESERVE" to take from the "priveleged". Poor vs rich. The public school system is creating little socialists from an early age.

This of course originates from the fact that universities and colleges - the places that have the nation's future teachers, administrators and professionals - those who will influence society - are in a liberal stranglehold. They are full of young people in their late teens and early 20's who are idealistic because of their age and naiivete and lack of life experience, therefore easily brought into the leftist fold. It's really quite insidious.
 
If I had the time on my hands I would really love to go through the vast amount of flat-out fallacies and (evidently wide-spread?) misconceptions I've seen throughout this entire thread - and tear them down, one by one.

Instead I'll just say this: Good luck to you, 'MERICA!!! :nope:
 
I've always said that politics is as individual as music, everyone hears something different, I may love a certain song and you may detest the same song. Much depends on yr news source as well, you only hear what the network wants you to hear. Wish I could find a truly independant news channel, other than just lip service
 
Wish I could find a truly independant news channel, other than just lip service

The unfortunate truth is that we, as individuals, ARE our very own independent news sources. We just have to find the facts, consider the motives of our sources, independently seek out any pertinent missing information, and use our big beautiful brains to discern truth from falsehood. Then we have to do this again with each new piece of information we add to our own big beautiful brains. We also have to decide what our personal priorities and values are in relation to all of this, and question our own stances on issues. It really grates on me when I hear falsehoods and misconceptions parroted by people who are too lazy to do any of these things.

Also, "fake news" is as old as news itself. This is not a new phenomenon. Critical analysis of information has always always ALWAYS been on the shoulders of those who are on the receiving end of information, particularly those who make decisions (such as, you know, who to vote for) based on said information!
 
Whenever someone refers to Hillary in this thread from now on please say "Crooked Hillary" because it was one of the best lines Trump came up with lmao.

Good luck with finding independent news, lets see TV is 95% liberal 5% conservative. Radio has a slightly better mix maybe 85% liberal and 15% conservative. I guess if you fall to the left you have a much better chance of finding an outlet that fits most of your personal views. If you fall to the right, I mean, If you are a bible thumping, nazi bigot then your choices are fewer lmao.

I'm sick of the Russia bullshit though, I really don't give a flying frog fuck what they did or even if Trump worked with them to beat Crooked Hillary. Even if he did work with them which at this point it's pretty evident he didn't, what can the dems do about it? Absolutely nothing lol. How bout we get to the real issues like lowering prescription drug prices, tax reform, getting fucking rid of Obamacare, getting that big beautiful wall built and deporting violent illegals.
 
yep, lot of diversity going on here. i may be wrong, but i do believe there was a law on the books, that stated not to allow muslims/arabs in our country. this was done with good reason. i believe the reason still holds true for today. if we don't convert to islam, then we should be made subservient or put to death, or both. that is what muslims believe. read it for yourselves in the koran. it's that simple.
as far as coal burning plants go, you really need to see one to really get a good idea about them. they are some of the cleanest places, i'd bet they are cleaner than the presidents office. lol. but seriously, they are very clean, and the coal burnt is so used up, the smoke mostly is water vapor. it's not black smoke coming out, it's white. now think about it. do they really need one more regulation.
as far as green house gases go, there was more carbon/ green house gases in the fourteen century, i think it was, than there is today.
problem is most ppl get a little information and run with it. remember a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
i think we as U.S. citizens have made ourselves into bigger whimps, by allowing minorities to rule, rather than the majority.
one person got prayer taken out of school. one person introduced common core. they should have told the person, they didn't have to pray if they didn't want to, and they certainly should have told the guy who came up with common core to go sit in the psych ward a little longer. if you've seen the math of common core you know what i mean.
just a bit of my input. you don't have to agree, but don't discount it without researching it.
 
Right on PGB the war on coal is completely political. When my grandfather started coal mining he was paid 1 dollar per ton lol. It took quite a bit of very dangerous work back then to dig a ton out and push it out by hand. They've come a long long way since then but it's still very dangerous work.
 
Right on PGB the war on coal is completely political. When my grandfather started coal mining he was paid 1 dollar per ton lol. It took quite a bit of very dangerous work back then to dig a ton out and push it out by hand. They've come a long long way since then but it's still very dangerous work.


a lot of my wife's family are coal miners. yes, very dangerous, even as far as they have come.
 
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