freight train
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Definetely pin delts bro,in for this log!!!!
really, well lets hope this cycle changes all that, whats your body fat at now?
Pushtoday
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BF was 13% at last check about 6 mos ago.
freight train
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Whats your diet look like bro?
Pushtoday
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Usually 4-5 whole food meals and 1 protein shake, 2 shakes on training days.
Protein bars, greek yogurt and bananas for quick fuel at work.
No junk food except 1 Cheat meal or dessert a week.
I do like my beer though!!!!
Miller Lite. It was several a night before I started this cycle, now its 2. :evil:
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I dont count calories or macros, If i'm hungry I eat.
Usually every 3 hours or so.
The var will def clean SOME of it up in the end, I've always heard that var works best for people with 8-10% BF, Honestly even if you maintained the 13 I believe you'll still have same results.
Sorry for just jumping in here and not introducing myself, i didnt see an intro thread so I figured you just get in there and helpif and where you can.
Anyways I'm rooster79 bro, nice to meet you and be part of Forum. OK back to cycle, I'm sorry I have to agree with NIKON
on the dbol, just because of yeah your E2 levels will be up there also because of the liver toxicity. May I suggest a supplement for that called UDCA, best for liver believe me.
You might want to have some anastazole handy for that dosage of dbol. Although anastrazole doesnt stop the estrogen but more less spreads out so that the estrogen doesnt impact on on specific area in the body and probably Hcg, just in case the boys arent feeling up to par, know what I mean. Right now I'm goin to sound like a dick and that cause I'm going to be one for a minute, bro for your first run on a cycle that is way to much first of all. Second the dbol's purpose here should have been to kick start your cycle, meaning take the dbol only for the first couple to few weeks then add your IM in. first starting you shouldnt even think about goin above 20-30 with the 500 TST E. OK I'm done being a dick, lol. I'm just type of guy that is concerned when I hear about "first Cyle" and then out comes 4-5 different aas, but you are sticking to what I call the standard mass/strenthening cycle. Do you have a good PCT or are you going cruise or TRT? Diet Clean brother and I know you are going to run the 50mg dbol, please just look into it or at least think about having the anastrazole and HCG or clomid, some kind of gonadatropin with you, i swear it will make all the difference in the world. oh dont forget the UDCA for your liver, after 50mgs of dbol youre going to need it! Good Luck and keep us posted on how youre doing brother.
Pushtoday
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
No offense taken rooster. The reason I joined MC was to get advice, and as a resource to help make a better decision for my first cycle. I understand that the cycle I chose has certain risks and rewards. I certainly cant fault anyone here for offering advice and expressing concerns for another member.
The plan is a full PCT.
Adex during cycle and nova-bloat, and aqua-clo for PCT.
Nikon
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Hey Push, you know where I stand on the Dbol dosage, so I'm not gonna go they're again.
I don't remember if u said u got the UDCA our not though.
Did u?
You really do need to b concerned about your liver, especially at 50mg/ED Dbol. That is a pretty high dose, and obviously brings higher risk.
I still think you should just run it at 40mg/ED.
Sorry, I know I said I wouldn't go there... Can't help it man.
I care too much.
Not to mention E2 of course, but I know you got what you need for that.
How much A-Dex are you taking?
I know it hasn't even been a week yet, so I'm guessing you haven't noticed anything.
Have u?
Also, I don't know if you know this but, Beer + AAS = BAD
I don't remember if u said u got the UDCA our not though.
Did u?
You really do need to b concerned about your liver, especially at 50mg/ED Dbol. That is a pretty high dose, and obviously brings higher risk.
I still think you should just run it at 40mg/ED.
Sorry, I know I said I wouldn't go there... Can't help it man.
I care too much.
Not to mention E2 of course, but I know you got what you need for that.
How much A-Dex are you taking?
I know it hasn't even been a week yet, so I'm guessing you haven't noticed anything.
Have u?
Also, I don't know if you know this but, Beer + AAS = BAD
Pushtoday
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
UDCA is not in the program right now.
Water, cranberry juice, Milk thistle and NAC for liver.
Also supplementing with Hawthorne berries and Taurine.
You can't say you're not gonna go there and then go there..LOL
Nikon
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First of all, don't tell me what I can't do!!
JK. LOL!
What you are doing for your liver is better than nothing, but u really do need to get some TUDCA our UDCA bro.
Do you still have the link I sent you for the UDCA?
It's legit, and not too expensive.
You need it.
I know u were getting close to your budget, and probably exceeded it, but it will be a small piece to pay to protect your liver.
Also, you didn't say how much A-Dex you are taking?
Take it easy bro!
Nikon
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What do you use presser?
Pushtoday
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
Update: Day 10 on dbol. Third pin test E today.
I'm up 2 pounds, but that could be just water.
Muscles feel fuller.
I'm noticing more stamina when I workout.
Recovery time seems to be less also.
Even though I dont count calories or macros, I am definitely eating more.
Overall I feel really good. I'm trying my best to trust the process.
Its been a week on the test.
I have a couple questions:
When should I start to notice or feel the test?
Is there any harm in running Nova throughout the cycle?
I'm just trying to make sure there is no chance of gyno.
Will it have any adverse affect on gains?
Plus I know of a place where its BOGO this weekend!
Im running Adex as an AI.
As always any advice and opinions are appreciated.
I'm up 2 pounds, but that could be just water.
Muscles feel fuller.
I'm noticing more stamina when I workout.
Recovery time seems to be less also.
Even though I dont count calories or macros, I am definitely eating more.
Overall I feel really good. I'm trying my best to trust the process.
Its been a week on the test.
I have a couple questions:
When should I start to notice or feel the test?
Is there any harm in running Nova throughout the cycle?
I'm just trying to make sure there is no chance of gyno.
Will it have any adverse affect on gains?
Plus I know of a place where its BOGO this weekend!
Im running Adex as an AI.
As always any advice and opinions are appreciated.
for my liver? not a fucking thing lol, but i should!
Nikon
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I guess it just depends on what you take, but either way your liver is pretty important bro.
week 4 you should really feel the test enanthate! and No the nolvadex will not hinder your gains like you may read a lot about, some guys say it does, and i can tell you through personal experience in running nolvadex throughout entire cycles, it never hindered my gains and it kept the water off me and nice and tight!
Pushtoday
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
Pushtoday
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Got on the scales and I'm up another 4 lbs.
Makes sense because I seem to be hungry all the time. So I'm eating more.
My wife and kids are starting to notice.
Shirts are getting a little tighter.
Still pinning quads and the soreness seems to be less each time.
Full 2 weeks in, and I can't wait to see what the future holds....
Makes sense because I seem to be hungry all the time. So I'm eating more.
My wife and kids are starting to notice.
Shirts are getting a little tighter.
Still pinning quads and the soreness seems to be less each time.
Full 2 weeks in, and I can't wait to see what the future holds....
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