Overtraining Thread

[highside]

I guess I just dont understand when I am overtraining. I know many people dont do as much as me. It just does not feel like I do anything if I am not doing a lot. For example on chest day I do

Incline Dumbell Press 4 sets (12-4)
Pec Dec Flys 4 sets (12-4)
Flat Dumbell 4 sets (12-4)
Dumbell Incline Flys 4 sets (12-4)
Dumbell Decline Press 4 sets (12-4)
Dumbell Pullovers 4 sets (12-4)

I know some people will only do a total of 12 sets. If I do that it does not feel like I even work my chest out. If feel like I did nothing. Is this too much for one muscle one day.(24 sets)

 

[mrproto]

Are you "chemically assisted"??? If you are and your nutrition is on target then I would say no. Must people lack from underrecovery than overtraining. You may find you respond better from a high number of sets. I myself work in the 60-80% of max. range and cannot log that many sets. Looks good bro!

 

[sully]

everyone is different

...whatever works for you bro...depends on the individual, but keep in mind once the muscle is stimulated anything beyond just makes it that much harder to recover...yates always says if you have that much energy to do all kinds of sets you obviously havent worked hard enuf in the previous sets...but again everyone has their opinion...

 

[highside]

That is what I hear. If you do so many sets than you dont work hard enough. I do my sets with the most weight as possible to failure. I dont know what it is. I really want to try less sets for a few months but dont want to mess up my cycle by not doing enough.

 

[BStrongBwell*]

hmmm...24 sets is ALOT of workload. How long does it take for you to get there? Must be over an hour and a half. IMO, that's too long. If UR still growing, then by all means keep doing it, but I'd guess that you're against a wall right now. Try ALL NEW chest exercises on your next few chest days. I'd bet that if you do different exercises, up the poundages and go for failure on every set that you won't last that long...AND I'd bet you hurt like a bitch almost immediately the next day too!

Give this a shot and let me know if it does anything for you:

>Flat bench -2 warmup sets@15 reps, then 3 worksets @8reps to failure
>Flat dumbell flies- 3 sets@8reps to failure,extend to a full stretch without resting or bouncing at the bottom and DON"T bring the weight all the way to the top...stop before you relieve any resistance and then start back down again.
>Cable Crossovers- 3 sets@ 8reps to failure, at the fully flexed position, hold and squeeze your pecs like you're posing for a picture for 2 seconds.
>Weighted dips- 3 sets@ 8reps to failure, use a gravity belt and strap on at least one 45lb plate. Keep your chin up, chest out, and go down to where your upper arms are parallel to the floor, don't lock-out or rest at the top either!

Remember, failure on every set. If I stood beside you and offered you a million bucks for "one more rep", you'd have to say you couldn't do it! Good luck!

 

[gymvet]

try this and grow

12-14 total sets for bigger bodyparts (chest, back, quads) 9-10 for smaller parts (bis, tric, shoulder, calves) .......i used to overtrain alot, the past 3-4 yrs i have stopped over training and got huge ............ 5'9 / 282 bulked right now, 240 for a show. from reading your chest routine you are without a doubt overtraining big time.

 

[highside]

I will give what yall said a try. I will let you know. I am about to start my 2nd cycle and I will try it and compare it to my last cycle.