Cyber-Suppz
cyber-suppz
GW-501516 has been a game changer for those looking to improve endurance or during a tren cycle.
Fat loss power of GW501516 aka Cardarine profile Endurobol.
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Would you mind providing some detail? How long have you been taking it?
Anyone else? How long? How regularly?
cybrsage
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I've taken it on and off for about 2 years now. I have found that for me 30 mg per day is my sweet spot. That is higher than most people who are anywhere between 15 and 20 mg per day.
I can honestly say it changes my cardio response completely. Without it, at 5 minutes I'm like oh God please let this end. With it at 15 minutes I'm like well I only have 5 minutes left, I should add some more time.
I can honestly say it changes my cardio response completely. Without it, at 5 minutes I'm like oh God please let this end. With it at 15 minutes I'm like well I only have 5 minutes left, I should add some more time.
I have been using it for about 6 months now from www.TheSupplementOutlet.com and twice on Tren A cycles i can say my cardio endurance has never been better. I dont get nearly as winded as i used to on Trenbolone cycles. Heavy sets with short rest are still possible.
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guardianactual
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I posted this a few years ago and still have not used GW myself. TSO is yours caps or liquid or what? And when do you think you will have it? I am adding in tren a in 4 weeks or so ans would like to have GW so I can function lmao
I believe liquid cardarine , and no shame in not using it yet, no matter how long ago you posted it brutha, hell I havent used 90% of the stuff I have written about
I use the stuff year round for cholestrol and blood pressure and endurance. 10mg is enough.
example- I did 3.5 hours of cardio strait on the stair master and I'm on 900mg eq, 400 tren e some mast and 1cc test.
dead fucking serious.
also after 3 weeks methyl tren at 1mg my hdl was 18 but normal total cholestrol. Got tested days after I stopped.
i know 18 isn't good but I was also on tren and others. I would have expected sub 10 hdl honestly based on what superdrol and winny do to people.
And im not just pushing this stuff. Trust me. I wouldn't use it if i didn't believe in it.
On a bad note, it can cause damage to the liver by increasing the amount of scarring when damage occurs like when taken with orals. I'm assuming if you take proper precautions to prevent damage via 1g TUDCA and NAC or injectable glutathione you shouldn't have to worry.
example- I did 3.5 hours of cardio strait on the stair master and I'm on 900mg eq, 400 tren e some mast and 1cc test.
dead fucking serious.
also after 3 weeks methyl tren at 1mg my hdl was 18 but normal total cholestrol. Got tested days after I stopped.
i know 18 isn't good but I was also on tren and others. I would have expected sub 10 hdl honestly based on what superdrol and winny do to people.
And im not just pushing this stuff. Trust me. I wouldn't use it if i didn't believe in it.
On a bad note, it can cause damage to the liver by increasing the amount of scarring when damage occurs like when taken with orals. I'm assuming if you take proper precautions to prevent damage via 1g TUDCA and NAC or injectable glutathione you shouldn't have to worry.
yellow snow
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I have never heard this before, can you elaborate on where you found this and by what mechanism does it cause scarring........does it do it on it own or just with methyl orals?
yellow snow
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Wow that is some heavy reading.......I like to get into the "weeds" sometimes but that is a forest!!
The way I read it was the they were seeing how GW efffected mice that already had a major liver injury, which I guess years of drinking or using methyl orals would do.
What are these TUDCA, NAC, and glutathione substances of which you speak?
Taking another tack on it, how much scarring, when compared to say... consuming usual-suspect adult beverages at user-chosen frequencies and in user-selected quantities?
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Cyber-Suppz
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They are liver support supplements that can help your liver in times of abnormal stress.
I have never heard of liver scarring associated with GW.
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guardianactual
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Umm is it just me or something bc gw50 seems to make me feel not stimulated like a CNS thing like clen or caffeine, but stommed like you may feel off neurotropics like NOOpept. About 30-40 mins I am alive after taking it. Idk, maybe it's worming woth the Tren and off putting the overestimming feeling I get from it? (Tren overstims me)
cybrsage
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TUDCA is the over-the-counter version of UDCA. They added a touring molecule to the USA so it no longer was just like the prescription version. Just that he's have shown it's actually slightly better. It is a powerful liver support. I take it whenever I am taking something that's very stressful on the liver, such as any oral AAS.
NAC is also an over the counter drug. It contains the precursors to glutathione so your body has all the raw materials and needs to make as much glutathione as a wants. I take 600 mg a day of hit to offset the damage I did to my liver through excessive drinking for decades.
Glutathione is a very powerful antioxidant. It can also help your liver to regenerate and help it to cleanse itself. It's really the cat's meow. The best way to take it is intravenously, and hospitals have been doing that for decades. The second best way to take it is through an intramuscular injection. It is basically worthless in an oral form.
This is the first study I've seen that talked about any damage at all. It implies that damage is only done in the presence of other liver damaging items. So in other words, if you are drinking and you take gw50 then it will increase the amount of scarring the drinking does. If you're not taking anything that does damage to the liver then gw50 does no damage. In other words, it seems to accentuate the damaging power of whatever else you are taking that causes liver damage. Taking NAC and TUDCA should be enough to stop any significant amount of damage.
guardianactual
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I was thinking a few shots of Glutathione next time I run DNP to keep me hopefully ok from free radicals and shit. Input man?
cybrsage
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I got up the nerve to run DNP once. Ran 250mg a day, stayed free of as many carbs as I could (carbs make me all but instantly burst into flames - it was horrible), took two TUDCA and two NAC pills (whatever their normal dose is - too lazy to go upstairs and actually look) and injected Glutathione twice a week (the entire 646mg ampule) intramuscular. Other than being horrible hot, sweating a lot, and feeling a bit run down, I was fine. I did blood tests afterwards and my liver values were only barely higher than normal for me. For me, my normal is always slightly over the high end of range due to decades of heavy drinking. So I would highly recommend it.
As a note, I ran it for 20 days, stayed VERY hydrated (normally drink about a gallon a day, I drank 1.5 gallons and still felt slightly thirsty all the time), and lost about 20 pounds of fat. It was quite epic, as I lost very little muscle during the time. My wife is 100% against DNP, but since I am on TRT I told her my doctors were playing with my hormones to see if they could kickstart my own system. I told her all the effects were because of that and that I asked them to stop after 20 days because it was too harsh on me, and they agreed.
I went from 205 to 185 in 20 days, with very little muscle loss. I swear I could see myself leaning out before my very eyes.
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