Is 495 considered Low Testosterone for men? Do I need TRT HRT
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hey bro i moved this to the proper forum and made it a new thread so everyone would see it and help ya out
here is a link you might find helpful in our articles section
http://www.musclechemistry.com/upload/articles-forum/64247-hrt-hormone-replacement-therapy.html
here is a link you might find helpful in our articles section
http://www.musclechemistry.com/upload/articles-forum/64247-hrt-hormone-replacement-therapy.html
LMAO, isn't that kinda like rubbing it in brutha , lmao, ""A SOLID" 17 years younger, lmao, i know if it were me, i would be like you little fucking prick!
in any case i know u didn't mean it like that, i just thought it was funny,
and i think at 48years old, you can get a script for Testosterone pretty easily if you do your homework and ask around for the doctors who are willing to do this
KngShisa
New member
LMAO!! Oops, I guess it did sound a little shitty the way I worded that... my bad! :chinese:
What I can say is that after I started trt, I felt a drive in my work, at the gym and in the sack that I simply never had before at any age. I say contact a clinic and see what they can offer you.
What I can say is that after I started trt, I felt a drive in my work, at the gym and in the sack that I simply never had before at any age. I say contact a clinic and see what they can offer you.
For someone your age that is not low. However, you could still get TRT if you find the right doc. If you can afford out of pocket, try a clinic. They are most likely to prescribe and are more likely to prescribe properly with all the necessary ancillaries. (HCG, AI, etc...) And they typically prescribe higher doses than GP's.
mroldguy
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No worries, I got a kick out of it! thanks for the input.
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It's all good, that was pretty funny!
It is going to depend on where you live and who you see about it, as well as what your symptoms are. As noted above, a specialty TRT clinic will almost definitely prescribe for you. The 1st guy I went to - I'm 45, btw, and been on TRT for roughly 2 years) - told me when reviewing my initial bloodwork (my T level was 395) that everyone under 600 gets treated. Provided you're symptomatic. Keep in mind, those places are in business to sell TRT. many, if not most, don't accept insurance, they want cash customers.
Some of those places are not run by doctors - which doesn't really matter to me, as I've found that most doctors have their heads so far up their asses regarding hormones (or at least testosterone) it isn't even funny. I've gotten more reliable and accurate info on the subject here, from knowledgeable members. The clinic I went to when I lived in Vegas was run by a PA; the one my buddy goes to has a physician "on staff": the doc is the owner's father and is available, but not there all the time. The owner is just a guy who owns a business, to be a TRT clinic. All of the foregoing is purely information. It is not intended as a criticism or anything else. Like I said, every doctor except one that I've spoken to about TRT and my symptoms has had his head totally up his or her ass. So as far as I'm concerned, a clinic is a very viable option, especially if they'll take your insurance, and if your insurance will pay.
I have since moved from that area and over the past year and several months have been trying to find a doc to competently deal with this issue . I seem to have found one. Be aware, though, that he told me that some medical body (CDC maybe? I forget, maybe there's some other medical society...) recently issued a position statement declaring rhat "normal, age related" low testosterone does NOT indicate treatment, and therefore "we are off the reservation with this." So far he's still ok prescribing it, however.
What I suggest is that you read up on it as much as possible here, ask questions, and "interview" some doctors until you find one who knows what he is talking about. This is a royal PITA, it is time consuming and frustrating. If you're lucky, you'll find one who knows his shit and is willing to help you. If not, after you've done your homework, if you look around here enough, you'll figure out where to get what you need along with any supporting compounds - such as HCG, AI's, etc, along with PCT if you try it and decide to stop.
So, what I'm trying to tell you is that you do have options. But you MUST do your homework; be very well informed; and be your own advocate.
O, and if a doctor tells you that testosterone has nothing to do with erections, consider that interview over, and that particular doctor as having failed the interview. I've heard this statement from a GP, a urologist, and an endocrinologist as well as a PA and a nurse. ED is what led me to TRT in the first place, and when my test level is in the right range, I get wood like a teenager. Too low, it's a dangling disappointment. Too high, it's also a dangling disappointment.
I hope this long winded post is helpful. It's based entirely on my own experience. Which includes getting a lot of solid info on this forum right here.
Some of those places are not run by doctors - which doesn't really matter to me, as I've found that most doctors have their heads so far up their asses regarding hormones (or at least testosterone) it isn't even funny. I've gotten more reliable and accurate info on the subject here, from knowledgeable members. The clinic I went to when I lived in Vegas was run by a PA; the one my buddy goes to has a physician "on staff": the doc is the owner's father and is available, but not there all the time. The owner is just a guy who owns a business, to be a TRT clinic. All of the foregoing is purely information. It is not intended as a criticism or anything else. Like I said, every doctor except one that I've spoken to about TRT and my symptoms has had his head totally up his or her ass. So as far as I'm concerned, a clinic is a very viable option, especially if they'll take your insurance, and if your insurance will pay.
I have since moved from that area and over the past year and several months have been trying to find a doc to competently deal with this issue . I seem to have found one. Be aware, though, that he told me that some medical body (CDC maybe? I forget, maybe there's some other medical society...) recently issued a position statement declaring rhat "normal, age related" low testosterone does NOT indicate treatment, and therefore "we are off the reservation with this." So far he's still ok prescribing it, however.
What I suggest is that you read up on it as much as possible here, ask questions, and "interview" some doctors until you find one who knows what he is talking about. This is a royal PITA, it is time consuming and frustrating. If you're lucky, you'll find one who knows his shit and is willing to help you. If not, after you've done your homework, if you look around here enough, you'll figure out where to get what you need along with any supporting compounds - such as HCG, AI's, etc, along with PCT if you try it and decide to stop.
So, what I'm trying to tell you is that you do have options. But you MUST do your homework; be very well informed; and be your own advocate.
O, and if a doctor tells you that testosterone has nothing to do with erections, consider that interview over, and that particular doctor as having failed the interview. I've heard this statement from a GP, a urologist, and an endocrinologist as well as a PA and a nurse. ED is what led me to TRT in the first place, and when my test level is in the right range, I get wood like a teenager. Too low, it's a dangling disappointment. Too high, it's also a dangling disappointment.
I hope this long winded post is helpful. It's based entirely on my own experience. Which includes getting a lot of solid info on this forum right here.
I couldn't agree more strongly, Presser
IronJulius
Active member
i recommend using whatever guy on the radio station in you city that starts out with "get your lack of desire fixed" if they advertise on the radio more than likely they will hook you up
That's exactly how I got set up with the clinic that I currently use. Clicked their banner on a forum. Within a week of contacting them, I sent my blood work, filled out paperwork and sent payment for my first prescription. (3 months worth) 200mg/week cyp, up to 1000iu/week hcg and enough adex to run 1mg/day for 3 months. Always have leftover HCG and adex which is very handy.
Script gets mailed to me overnight.
mroldguy
New member
So just a little update, I started 200 mg test e every other week. Thursday is my second injection. when I get used to doing injections my self I will take the next step.
I have been looking at the beginners cycle from PSL. Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.
I am taking the crawl, walk, run approach. I give the credit to MC. BUMP!
I have been looking at the beginners cycle from PSL. Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.
I am taking the crawl, walk, run approach. I give the credit to MC. BUMP!
cybrsage
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One of the key things to discuss with a doctor if your test levels are above 300 (many will not treat anything above 300) is that you are trying to solve your problems and you do not really care about numbers. That you want to feel better. Mention a loss of desire for life, extreme apathy, loss of sexual desire, and a general feeling of blah. Tell him that numbers are meaningless to you, what matters is how you actually feel. Ask him to see what can be done to fix how you feel.
My doctor was visibly happy when I said I was not shooting for a specific number, but for a return of my humanity, to rejoin society again. Of course, my natty test level is only 153, so I am a prime candidate for TRT regardless of age...but still, my outlook made him happy and he is more than willing to up dosage as a trial to see if I feel better or not.
We settled on the low 700s. Higher than that did nothing for me, so I asked him to reduce it. I am quite pleased in the 700s.
My doctor was visibly happy when I said I was not shooting for a specific number, but for a return of my humanity, to rejoin society again. Of course, my natty test level is only 153, so I am a prime candidate for TRT regardless of age...but still, my outlook made him happy and he is more than willing to up dosage as a trial to see if I feel better or not.
We settled on the low 700s. Higher than that did nothing for me, so I asked him to reduce it. I am quite pleased in the 700s.
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