New and "Improved" Cycle/Log

[Chocolate Rain]

Ok so as some of you may have read in my previous posts I have been trying to figure out my next cycle and have been flip-flopping all over the place. I created this new thread to start over from scratch and would like your opinions on my new cycle. I'm 6'2" currently around 275 but will be cutting down to 250-260 before I start and would like to put on as much mass as possible with minimal water retention and fat gain. I know from past cycles that prop and npp work well with me as i normally finish around 280 near 15% BF regardless of my diet.

Weeks 1-10 150mgEOD EQ Frontloaded 500mg 1st 2 shots
Weeks 1-12 150mg EOD Test Prop
Weeks 1-11 125mg EOD NPP
Weeks 3-12 500iu HCG
Weeks 1-12 .5mg EOD Adex
Weeks 1-12 .5mg/week Caber

PCT
Weeks 1-4 50mg Clomid
Weeks 1-4 20 mg Nolva

 

[first blood]

How old are you?

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[Chocolate Rain]

I'm 28, I've also decided to add some of MC's Ligandrol for 8 weeks @ 5mg leading up to the cycle to further aid in my initial fat loss before so that I can up my calories during to pack on a few more lbs.

 

[Landmark.Raine]

Ok so as some of you may have read in my previous posts I have been trying to figure out my next cycle and have been flip-flopping all over the place. I created this new thread to start over from scratch and would like your opinions on my new cycle. I'm 6'2" currently around 275 but will be cutting down to 250-260 before I start and would like to put on as much mass as possible with minimal water retention and fat gain. I know from past cycles that prop and npp work well with me as i normally finish around 280 near 15% BF regardless of my diet.

Weeks 1-10-150mgEOD EQ(Acetate)

Weeks 1-12-150mg EOD Test Prop
Weeks 1-11-125mg EOD NPP
Weeks 3-12 500iu HCG
Weeks 1-12 .5mg EOD Adex
Weeks 1-12 .5mg/week Caber

PCT
Weeks 1-4 50mg Clomid
Weeks 1-4 20 mg Nolva

@Chocolate Rain IMO, my bro, you should be rest two weeks after your cutting cycle, then begin to run your PCT.

 

[Chocolate Rain]

Any reason in why you say that Raine? I appreciate the input but would like a reason behind it as well.

 

[trekrider215]

@Chocolate Rain IMO, my bro, you should be rest two weeks after your cutting cycle, then begin to run your PCT.

I don't think raine noticed you were using all short esters. Boldenone Acetate is pretty rare. And you stop that two weeks early anyways so you should be fine.

Edit: I'm confused. In Raines quote of you, it shows you have EQ (Acetate), but then in the original post I just see EQ. I assume you edited it after he quoted you.

Which one are you running, because I doubt theres any need to frontload acetate.

 

[Chocolate Rain]

Yes it was originally going to be acetate but I changed it due to the fact that i cannot get acetate anymore. I could also begin the EQ a week or two before the Test plus front loaded to allow it to kick in much sooner in the cycle to take full advantage of it. Does this sound okay given that i will only be on the ligandrol at that time or will front loading be enough?

 

[Chocolate Rain]

Of course as soon as I think I have my cycle figured out I stumble upon a new road that i may take instead. Interested in replacing the EQ and NPP with Trestolone Acetate or better known as MENT. I would run it at 100mg EOD for the first 6 weeks and just finish the remaining 6 weeks with the Prop only at 150mg EOD. Any input on this, I will still look to run HCG at 500IU/wk from weeks 3-12 unless advised otherwise. Interested in seeing what others say on this as I have never ran MENT but read plenty of great reviews.

 

[Elvia1023]

Ok so as some of you may have read in my previous posts I have been trying to figure out my next cycle and have been flip-flopping all over the place. I created this new thread to start over from scratch and would like your opinions on my new cycle. I'm 6'2" currently around 275 but will be cutting down to 250-260 before I start and would like to put on as much mass as possible with minimal water retention and fat gain. I know from past cycles that prop and npp work well with me as i normally finish around 280 near 15% BF regardless of my diet.

Weeks 1-10 150mgEOD EQ Frontloaded 500mg 1st 2 shots
Weeks 1-12 150mg EOD Test Prop
Weeks 1-11 125mg EOD NPP
Weeks 3-12 500iu HCG
Weeks 1-12 .5mg EOD Adex
Weeks 1-12 .5mg/week Caber

PCT
Weeks 1-4 50mg Clomid
Weeks 1-4 20 mg Nolva

Obviously diet is the key factor but I would personally run the test p and npp ed. Although if there are no issues injecting 3ml of test p and npp then eod would be fine too. I like to run eq for longer but you will still get results running it for 10 weeks. I would personally run avar instead of eq... for the final 6-8 weeks of the cycle. I know you are not opposed to running orals so that's why I mention avar. Run the clomid for 3 weeks and the nolva for 4 weeks. I would also recommend looking into metformin for this cycle. Do you know your fasted blood glucose level? Regards

 

[trekrider215]

Obviously diet is the key factor but I would personally run the test p and npp ed. Although if there are no issues injecting 3ml of test p and npp then eod would be fine too. I like to run eq for longer but you will still get results running it for 10 weeks. I would personally run avar instead of eq... for the final 6-8 weeks of the cycle. I know you are not opposed to running orals so that's why I mention avar. Run the clomid for 3 weeks and the nolva for 4 weeks. I would also recommend looking into metformin for this cycle. Do you know your fasted blood glucose level? Regards

Just curious, whats the deal with metformin and why should he know his fasted blood glucose. I just bought a meter and am trying to rigure out what a healthy fasted range is.

 

[Landmark.Raine]

Any reason in why you say that Raine? I appreciate the input but would like a reason behind it as well.

@Chocolate Rain Bro, EQ belongs to long ester, so the metabolites of EQ can remain in the body for quite a long time. Thus, rest two weeks to let it out of our body. But just like @trekrider215 the bro said, as for short ester, such as Boldenone Acetate, it doesn't have to rest.

 

[Chocolate Rain]

I see what you mean, but if you look at it again I was only going to run it for 10 weeks giving me 2 weeks off before my last pin of prop. After more research I'm like the idea of replacing the npp and eq with ment even more. IT would be dosed at 100mg eod for 6.5 weeks. My question is will the trestolone acetate provide superior results to the npp?

 

[Chocolate Rain]

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