Question on PCT

[peanutbarnes]

I'm very new to this and have been natural all of my life. I've only taken the following: Protein Power, Creatine (I adore Creatine and have always responded well to it) Glutamine, BCAAs, and Vitamins. I have already went to the Muscle Chemistry Store and ordered 2 units of Ostarine (8 week supply). I'm very excited to run this, as it is the first ever for me and by the research of it, it seems very mild at best. I work very very hard in the weightroom, as I'm sure we all do, and at 36 years old, I just want a little edge. I actually have a few questions:

1. In regards to when I start my Ostarine for 8 weeks @ 25mg a day, is there anything else that I need to take with it during the cycle?

2. I have heard that there is little to no shutdown with Ostarine at 8 weeks. Second question is how would I know that there is shutdown? I mean is there any symptoms? I've heard of people on this forum that have said "Bro, I had just a little shutdown during the cycle." How did they know of this "shutdown" in the first place? Was there symptoms of testicular shrinkage or something?

3. During the PCT, what products do I need to take (Nolvadex, Clomid, ect.....)?

4. During the PCT do I need to take the full dosage with me only running Ostarine only 8 weeks?

5. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTIONS: In regards to PCT, I have saw where people on this forum put various number values such as 10/10/10..............or 25/25/25.............or 10/10/5/5...............I don't understand this jargon/lingo. What does that mean? For an example: Does the first example mean they took 10 mgs of a product for 10 days for 10 times a day? I hope I'm making sense.

Finally, I really appreciate all of the knowledgeable people in the forum for all of the help given. For people like me who is really knew to this side, people like us really appreciate you guys!!!!!

 

[Big Beef]

I don't consider myself a pro with SARMS, peptides & all that, but I have played around with them enough to answer your questions..

1. There is really nothing I can think of as far as supplements go, that you have to take with ostarine, but some times guys stack it with other sarms or igf. Probably best your doing it solo first time.

2. I had no noticeable shutdown with ostarine. You really don't know stuff like that though, unless you get blood work done. Me personally, I think you will be fine without pct as long as your not stacking it with something else that can cause shut down. I am not on trt & have no reason to think that my natural test production is not where it should be for my age. On that note, I would notice at least a slight shrinkage in my nuts if it were causing even partial shut down. You should be the same way, but I don't think you'll notice any.

3. If you feel the need to be extra cautious, you could run Clomid for 2 or 3 weeks at like 25 mgs or so. That's all up to you. I would just go with the flow & see what happens.

4. Refer to answer 3..

5. The #'s are mgs per every day of that week & the / separates the weeks. Example: 25/25/25 would be 25 mgs everyday for 3 weeks. Technically, it could be measured in something other than mgs like igf would be 50/50/50/50 mcg because that is how igf is generally measured. Stuff like Clomid, nolvadex, etc. would be mgs though & usually guys only list weekly dosages in that way when it comes to pct.

Hope that all helps. If someone on here notices something they differ with me on opinions, I'm sure they will chime in. Good luck with all that

 

[BigZ]

I'm very new to this and have been natural all of my life. I've only taken the following: Protein Power, Creatine (I adore Creatine and have always responded well to it) Glutamine, BCAAs, and Vitamins. I have already went to the Muscle Chemistry Store and ordered 2 units of Ostarine (8 week supply). I'm very excited to run this, as it is the first ever for me and by the research of it, it seems very mild at best. I work very very hard in the weightroom, as I'm sure we all do, and at 36 years old, I just want a little edge. I actually have a few questions:

1. In regards to when I start my Ostarine for 8 weeks @ 25mg a day, is there anything else that I need to take with it during the cycle?

2. I have heard that there is little to no shutdown with Ostarine at 8 weeks. Second question is how would I know that there is shutdown? I mean is there any symptoms? I've heard of people on this forum that have said "Bro, I had just a little shutdown during the cycle." How did they know of this "shutdown" in the first place? Was there symptoms of testicular shrinkage or something?

3. During the PCT, what products do I need to take (Nolvadex, Clomid, ect.....)?

4. During the PCT do I need to take the full dosage with me only running Ostarine only 8 weeks?

5. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTIONS: In regards to PCT, I have saw where people on this forum put various number values such as 10/10/10..............or 25/25/25.............or 10/10/5/5...............I don't understand this jargon/lingo. What does that mean? For an example: Does the first example mean they took 10 mgs of a product for 10 days for 10 times a day? I hope I'm making sense.

Finally, I really appreciate all of the knowledgeable people in the forum for all of the help given. For people like me who is really knew to this side, people like us really appreciate you guys!!!!!

1. No, not unless you want to, purely up to you

2. Most know there's some shutdown because they'll experience libido going down or not being able to "get it up." There's a lot of "broscience" in this area. You'll have to gauge your own reaction, no two people are the same.

3. For a regular cycle that includes compounds that aromatize to estrogen, this is when you need nolvadex to block receptor sites. Ostarine does not aromatize so nolvadex is not needed if you're running Ostarine on its own. Clomid is what stimulates the body to start producing testosterone again. This means that if you do experience any shutdown, you would use clomid to bring normal function back.

4. Regular dosing of Clomid is 40-50mg/day. Again, if you experience any shutdown, then I would go ahead and take the regular dose. If you don't feel you have any shutdown, you probably don't need to take anything.

5. This is one I'm hoping someone else can shed some more light on and correct me if I'm wrong. I've been seeing this around a lot lately. From what I understand, the numbers refer to the number of weeks as such: dose week1/dose week2/dose week3/dose week4 or if you see only 3 numbers, that's only 3 weeks. You'll see a higher number sometime on the first which is often a front loading dose which is not always necessary. Thus a 25/25/25 of nolvadex would be 25mg per day week1/25mg per day week2/25mg per day week3. 10/10/5/5 for example would show 4 weeks and the dose of 10mg/day for the first two weeks then 5mg/day for the second two weeks.

 

[peanutbarnes]

Awesome information!

 

[Big Beef]

What happened to the long post I put on here? Why was it deleted?

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That has happened on a couple occasions now & I would like to know why..

 

[Presser]

I pmed you beef and I think you may have replied to one of this members duplicate threads which was auto deleted , but no one has deleted anything brutha , and if the other posts your speaking of were replies to this members threads , he has started many duplicates either mistakenly of unsure of best forum but that's all I can think of brutha

 

[Big Beef]

I pmed you beef and I think you may have replied to one of this members duplicate threads which was auto deleted , but no one has deleted anything brutha , and if the other posts your speaking of were replies to this members threads , he has started many duplicates either mistakenly of unsure of best forum but that's all I can think of brutha

Thanks bro! I got your pm & thanks much for the quick reply. Straight shooter as always you are

 

[Presser]

What happened to the long post I put on here? Why was it deleted?

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That has happened on a couple occasions now & I would like to know why..

Hey brutha, So this user pmed me, about our store, and it came up a couple times as duplicate pm, so I had a look into his posts and yep the reply your talking about to his thread, was replied to one of the duplicates we had moderated, he had 4 identical threads posted ,

Long story short, just now when looking through all his threads thoroughly , I found your reply in the 3rd duplicate our auto system had moderated once it was time to run through Scheduled Tasks for duplicates. As it looks like the Duplicates will all be public until our Auto Moderate duplicates runs through our daily and hourly Scheduled tasks .

So Boom, theres your post reply daddio, as I moved/merged it into this thread that our system kept. So your effort was Not a waist of time! And I do not ever delete peoples posts and every rep here knows not to ever delete until I see it, as every single word typed is worth Money by way of SEO Indexing and Content Is The Commodity Of Kings! At least in our on-line industry !!!

 

[Big Beef]

Hey brutha, So this user pmed me, about our store, and it came up a couple times as duplicate pm, so I had a look into his posts and yep the reply your talking about to his thread, was replied to one of the duplicates we had moderated, he had 4 identical threads posted ,

Long story short, just now when looking through all his threads thoroughly , I found your reply in the 3rd duplicate our auto system had moderated once it was time to run through Scheduled Tasks for duplicates. As it looks like the Duplicates will all be public until our Auto Moderate duplicates runs through our daily and hourly Scheduled tasks .

So Boom, theres your post reply daddio, as I moved/merged it into this thread that our system kept. So your effort was Not a waist of time! And I do not ever delete peoples posts and every rep here knows not to ever delete until I see it, as every single word typed is worth Money by way of SEO Indexing and Content Is The Commodity Of Kings! At least in our on-line industry !!!

That is what I call going above & beyond! Was more curious than anything I guess, but I should have known that you & your reps were on top of it. Sorry if I made it seem like it was a bigger deal than it actually was.

Hopefully for anyone new to the site that is curious about how legit things are here, your last post says it all! Your staff, as well as your products at advanced supplements are top notch. Thinks again

 

[Presser]

Thnx Big BeeF and to member peanutbarnes dude please check your computer for malware!