Test E + Dbol 10 week cycle

[DetailGuy501]

I'm finishing up my cycle of MC IGF-Lr3, and planning to start a Test cycle on June 1st. In the past I've only used Sust 250 and knew nothing about PCT (Young & dumb). After months of research, I've decided on a 10 week Test-E cycle with a 4 week Dbol kickstart.

I'll have HCG on hand as well as Aqua-dex. I'm looking for opinions as to when I should start the HCG. Some say up to 500/week from the start. Some say to wait until the end of the cycle.
What about the aqua-dex? I was originally thinking .25/ED or EOD.

Weeks 1-10 Test E 500 mg/week
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30 ED

PCT
Weeks 11-15 MC IGF 40 mcg/day
Weeks 13-15 Nolva 40/40/20

Another question: What's the general consensus on Ostarine during PCT to hold onto gains?

Stats:
5'7"
155lbs (Hoping to be 160 by 6/1)
BF: 7-8%

Workout 4-5x/week...Diet is pretty clean. Looking for around 2.7-3k calories/day. Is this enough?

Pre-Cycle blood work will be done next week. Am also going to do mid & post cycle.
Goal is to be 170-175 @ 10-12% bf after PCT. Trying to keep it realistic tho.

Any and all comments are greatly appreciated!



Estradiol 20.8 pg/ml

 

[The Dude]

Man it sounds like you've done your research. Everything looks really good. I also think using ostarine after your off your cycle is a great idea. The longer you hold the tissue the better and easier it is to maintain. I really don't see anything that needs to be adjusted at all. It's bit or miss with needing adex. As long as you have it I would wait and see if you develop any gyno. Taking it will alot of times dry out your joints and tendons if you don't have alot of aromatase to fight. I'd say get started and pop back in with any questions or things that might come up, but it looks as though you've done your homework

 

[The Dude]

With the HCG you could do 250 twice a week the whole time of 1500 twice a week for a few weeks after with the nolvadex. I personally never had much use for it. I knew I would be on HRT so those little nuts could pack their bags and get the F on for all I cared

 

[Presser]

I'm finishing up my cycle of MC IGF-Lr3, and planning to start a Test cycle on June 1st. In the past I've only used Sust 250 and knew nothing about PCT (Young & dumb). After months of research, I've decided on a 10 week Test-E cycle with a 4 week Dbol kickstart.

I'll have HCG on hand as well as Aqua-dex. I'm looking for opinions as to when I should start the HCG. Some say up to 500/week from the start. Some say to wait until the end of the cycle.
What about the aqua-dex? I was originally thinking .25/ED or EOD.

Weeks 1-10 Test E 500 mg/week
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30 ED

PCT
Weeks 11-15 MC IGF 40 mcg/day
Weeks 13-15 Nolva 40/40/20

Another question: What's the general consensus on Ostarine during PCT to hold onto gains?

Stats:
5'7"
155lbs (Hoping to be 160 by 6/1)
BF: 7-8%

Workout 4-5x/week...Diet is pretty clean. Looking for around 2.7-3k calories/day. Is this enough?

Pre-Cycle blood work will be done next week. Am also going to do mid & post cycle.
Goal is to be 170-175 @ 10-12% bf after PCT. Trying to keep it realistic tho.

Any and all comments are greatly appreciated!

yeah bro as the dude said, looks like you know what your doing, and your major questions on the aqua-dex being ed or eod as more of prefrences than right or wrong answers to your questions, so with that said, your cycle looks fine man, and yes Ostarine is a good idea during your next PCT

Are you still using the IGF-1 lr3 through this cycle or did you only use it during your post cycle?

 

[DetailGuy501]

Dude, thanks for the reply & suggestions! I'll play it by ear (or nips & nuts) with the Adex and HCG lol

Are you still using the IGF-1 lr3 through this cycle or did you only use it during your post cycle?

Plan is to cycle off the IGF until PCT, and stay on for 2 more months. Then run a stacked SARM cycle while I decide my next plan of action with aas.

 

[Presser]

Dude, thanks for the reply & suggestions! I'll play it by ear (or nips & nuts) with the Adex and HCG lol



Plan is to cycle off the IGF until PCT, and stay on for 2 more months. Then run a stacked SARM cycle while I decide my next plan of action with aas.

If you havent run steroids alongside IGF-1 lr3, I highly suggest trying it, makes a huge difference in your cycle, i know igf works great during pct, but if you happen to have some igf-1 lr3 left i would run it with your testosterone and dianabol cycle, you get much more uptake of the steroids

 

[DetailGuy501]

If you havent run steroids alongside IGF-1 lr3, I highly suggest trying it, makes a huge difference in your cycle, i know igf works great during pct, but if you happen to have some igf-1 lr3 left i would run it with your testosterone and dianabol cycle, you get much more uptake of the steroids

I haven't run IGF on-cycle, but I'll have plenty. Honestly, I love the stuff, so I might as well run it throughout the entire cycle. I'm looking for max gains.

 

[Presser]

yeah bro, makes huge difference, have you started this yet?

 

[LMC ROIDS]

Looks good bro. Appreciate the cycle, sure to have good result.

 

[DetailGuy501]

yeah bro, makes huge difference, have you started this yet?

Sounds good bro. I'm waiting on the gear to arrive. Hopefully be here by the end of next week. If so, I'll start next Sunday or Monday

 

[DetailGuy501]

Update:
Gear came in on Friday, so I decided to start immediately. BTW gear is from Valkyrie...

First pin was right quad. Went fine. Initially no PIP but I went to a wedding on Saturday and was on my feet most of the night. Woke up Sunday to some discomfort. Limped around most of the day, but by Monday morning, the pain was pretty much gone.

First workout was last night, Monday...Arms.

Concentration Barbell Biceps Curl: 50x12, 50x12, 50x12, 60x12

Dumbbell Triceps Extension: 60x15, 65x14, 70x11

Incline Biceps Curl: 30x12, 30x12, 35x8

Triceps Kickback: 25x12, 25x12, 25x12

Concentration Biceps Curl: 30x12, 30x12, 35x10

Hammer Curls: 25x12, 25x12, 25x12

Triceps Pushdown: 57.5x12, 72.5x11, 80x9

Hanging Leg Raises: 15, 12, 11

Second pin is today

Also, I've updated the first post with my pre-cycle blood work

 

[Presser]

Update:
Gear came in on Friday, so I decided to start immediately. BTW gear is from Valkyrie...

First pin was right quad. Went fine. Initially no PIP but I went to a wedding on Saturday and was on my feet most of the night. Woke up Sunday to some discomfort. Limped around most of the day, but by Monday morning, the pain was pretty much gone.

First workout was last night, Monday...Arms.

Concentration Barbell Biceps Curl: 50x12, 50x12, 50x12, 60x12

Dumbbell Triceps Extension: 60x15, 65x14, 70x11

Incline Biceps Curl: 30x12, 30x12, 35x8

Triceps Kickback: 25x12, 25x12, 25x12

Concentration Biceps Curl: 30x12, 30x12, 35x10

Hammer Curls: 25x12, 25x12, 25x12

Triceps Pushdown: 57.5x12, 72.5x11, 80x9

Hanging Leg Raises: 15, 12, 11

Second pin is today

Also, I've updated the first post with my pre-cycle blood work

Thats great to hear, as i am wanting to hear how Valkyrie works for you, what did you get from Valkyrie labs? Testosterone enanthate and dianabol as mentioned in your first post in this thread? or other stuff ?

was it boxed and all? or can you post pictures? sorry but im curious about them is all cause i hear a lot of good

 

[DetailGuy501]

Thats great to hear, as i am wanting to hear how Valkyrie works for you, what did you get from Valkyrie labs? Testosterone enanthate and dianabol as mentioned in your first post in this thread? or other stuff ?

was it boxed and all? or can you post pictures? sorry but im curious about them is all cause i hear a lot of good

Ordered Test E, DBol, HCG, GHRP-6, & Nolva. No boxes. Everything was packed really well tho. Ordered 4/29 & Received 5/13. Tracking number was provided. I'm hoping everything is g2g. We'll see in a few weeks when I go for my blood test. I'm gonna keep this log updated so everyone will know about Valkyrie.

 

[Dean Destructo]

I would do at least 12 weeks if it was me since Test E is such a long ester.

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Also with the HCG you should do the first inject along with the first inject of the Test. You will experience testicular atrophy within the first 3 days despite ester. After that you are already impaired. I will try and find the studies that I received this info from and post it.

 

[Presser]

I would do at least 12 weeks if it was me since Test E is such a long ester.

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Also with the HCG you should do the first inject along with the first inject of the Test. You will experience testicular atrophy within the first 3 days despite ester. After that you are already impaired. I will try and find the studies that I received this info from and post it.

Testicle atrophy in first 3 days of your first injection of testosterone? IDK about that brutha

 

[Dean Destructo]

Yes. I read a in depth study and the conclusion was a dramatic reduction in LH within the first 3 days. Not to mention if the OP is using Dbol then that point is moot anyways, since Dbol is immediately going to suppress. From what I gathered if you are going to run HCG you should run it from day one to PCT. A very small amount of endogenous hormones will suppress quickly, even low amounts of dbol were found to be severely suppressive.

I have been looking for this study I will post it when I find it again, I knew I should have saved it. I had the same original question and like I said the general consensus was 250 i.u. twice a week for the duration of the cycle was the best route. All that being said I am definitely open to reading other research.