which steroids raise psa levels

pgb · Aug 28, 2017

i am wondering which steroids will raise psa level, which don't will be helpful as well. i am pretty sure tren does and i believe the sarm ostarine may, as well as keep test levels up. i just got my psa and test levels back after stopping long esters 3 weeks before test and short ester test p over a week before labs i took ostarine up to two days before labs. my labs were testosterone 615 and psa 7. the psa is high.
and will this come back down once steroids that cause it are ceased, or do all steroids have to cease to bring it down. i stopped tren over three week before any labs in july and psa was 5.76 at that time and only ran test with ostarine after?
so what are the thoughts/facts out there. ostarine was mc brand.

Muscle mechanic · Aug 28, 2017

All I can say is this.
I never had high psa!

I just looked at end of July my
Psa was 0.82 range 0.0-4.0
In February I blasted
mast e 600 wk
Test e 750 wk
Deca 500 wk
Got on proviron 50 mg a day in March.
Switched to my cut stack April 22
Ran
tren a 75 a day
mast prop 150 a day
Test prop 50 a day
Anavar 30-50 a day
Proviron 75 a day
Mc Nolva 10mg a day
MC anti-p .5mg @2×wk
I run that till June 10th
June 10th I ran
prop at 150-200wk
Primo e 300 wk
Mast prop 150 wk
Proviron 75-100 a day
Stayed on MC nolva
Remembered to start test c I started on June 21 oops! Started cyp
I dropped test prop 6 days before labs stayed on primo dropped mast prop 6 days before labs
Stayed on proviron and nolva.

So....

There are just as many studies today that say estro is cause of prostate!!!! If u look at mast, proviron and nolva I would say I have been good on estro!!!
My trt test once per year psa and my highest was 1.2 and I stay on blast before bloods always.
Oh and my lipids were good
HDL was 22 but no real proof shows that it's actually goodfor us.
My liver was all in range!!!!
So I don't know my friend!!!

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Muscle mechanic · Aug 28, 2017

pgb said:
i am wondering which steroids will raise psa level, which don't will be helpful as well. i am pretty sure tren does and i believe the sarm ostarine may, as well as keep test levels up. i just got my psa and test levels back after stopping long esters 3 weeks before test and short ester test p over a week before labs i took ostarine up to two days before labs. my labs were testosterone 615 and psa 7. the psa is high.
and will this come back down once steroids that cause it are ceased, or do all steroids have to cease to bring it down. i stopped tren over three week before any labs in july and psa was 5.76 at that time and only ran test with ostarine after?
so what are the thoughts/facts out there. ostarine was mc brand.

I ran osta thru bloods in Jan and those labs were better than these!

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pgb · Aug 28, 2017

may be just getting older. labs were fine a year ago. thanks muscle mechanic.

BigZ · Aug 28, 2017

Anything that is testosterone that can be changed into DHT will cause PSA to rise as will likely any steroid that is DHT-based.

mkdk · Aug 30, 2017

Its the estrogen that increases psa levels. The testosterone does not. Mine went down over 15 years time I have been on 200mg a week, no more. If your loaded with test their will be massive conversion and your test estrogen levels will be high.

Muscle mechanic · Aug 30, 2017

mkdk said:
Its the estrogen that increases psa levels. The testosterone does not. Mine went down over 15 years time I have been on 200mg a week, no more. If your loaded with test their will be massive conversion and your test estrogen levels will be high.

Yes indeed!!!! Take mast and proviron and go do bloods.
Healthy estro levels without killing the liver with ai's and crashing lipids. And ai's ruin insulin sensitivity!!!

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pgb · Aug 30, 2017

Muscle mechanic said:
Yes indeed!!!! Take mast and proviron and go do bloods.
Healthy estro levels without killing the liver with ai's and crashing lipids. And ai's ruin insulin sensitivity!!!

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i thought it may be estrogen doing it, so began taking adex. i know from researching it raises cholesterol. i can do mast okay, but have problems with proviron. gives me super watery eyes and runny nose. i can take it about every three days is all.got prov, need to get some mast though. how much mast would be good to run and slow down on adex. would it be better to do nolva, i know it doesn't raise ldl so badly.

Muscle mechanic · Aug 31, 2017

pgb said:
i thought it may be estrogen doing it, so began taking adex. i know from researching it raises cholesterol. i can do mast okay, but have problems with proviron. gives me super watery eyes and runny nose. i can take it about every three days is all.got prov, need to get some mast though. how much mast would be good to run and slow down on adex. would it be better to do nolva, i know it doesn't raise ldl so badly.

This is something to be careful with.
I take Cialis 5-12 mg everyday.
I use proviron 50-100 a day
I use mast as often as possible
400 mast prop a week does good.
Or a few,hundred of mast e
On blast I use up to 1000 mast e.
I have been using 10 mg nolva a day.

On trt dose u can do less 400 mast prop wk and mast e at 300 then drop prop once things are good with water and estro.
Nolva even 5 a day

This is my own deal that works and many others but it's on of those things to be careful with!

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Muscle mechanic · Aug 31, 2017

@pgb, my opinion is estro is the culprit and studies have shown that dht and estro cause it
BUT estro higher levels need to be present. It appears from my researching that dht without estro isn't the cause!

I have had better results on my labs taking my new dht based route as AI and estro control. My prostate was swollen peeling all the time all night almost peeling on self before u can stop car and jump out on side of road.

Since keeping aromatasing roids to min and using Cialis low dose Dailey with mast and proviron as estro controller and nolva as protection I am not peering all the time.
And my psa is good
Better than other route

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pgb · Aug 31, 2017

thanks muscle mechanic. from what i've read mast is quite hard on cholesterol, which right now, mine is up. more than likely due to the tren. it was a little high before i started and went up more. so, i'm working to bring it down as well. thus,mast may not be such a good choice for the time being. i don't get too bent with the higher cholesterol, because it tends to run in my family. we don't have heart problems either. my step-dad though had low cholesterol and had several heart attacks, before it took him out, go figure. it was coming down, til i blasted on the steroids that are a bit harder on it. i can't take statin drugs, either. i've read that finasteride can lower psa level. it won't affect dht steroids, like mast, since they are already dht. certainly, will be changing up adex for nolva. have some, need more.

Muscle mechanic · Aug 31, 2017

I will post my bloods

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drtbear1967 · Aug 31, 2017

The only time my levels were highter were due to an infection in my prostate and not gear.

pgb · Aug 31, 2017

drtbear1967 said:
The only time my levels were highter were due to an infection in my prostate and not gear.

what test did they do to find it was in prostate and how'd they treat it. does this mean psa level can rise to any number of various reason. from what i can find out so far. having sex can raise it, masterbation more. riding bikes, hip injury, jostling it in general, not to mention steroids, lol.

Muscle mechanic · Aug 31, 2017

These are my lipids from July after that big blast.
HDL were low from tren ace not even being a month between and anavar.
Liver function too